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Re: Topband: Preferred Topband transceiver

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Subject: Re: Topband: Preferred Topband transceiver
From: <donovanf@starpower.net>
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 09:10:55 -0500 (EST)
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Larry,

Diversity reception with the two identical K3 receivers takes essentially no 
extra effort. In diversity mode, the two receivers are locked together and any 
tuning or bandwidth change made on one receiver is automatically made on the 
other.

I have an external receiver antenna switch that makes antenna selection into 
the two receivers easy.  It allows the operator to instantly select:

   - a 4-square into one receiver and one output from a K9AY Beverage switch 
into the other receiver.
   
   - one output from the K9AY Beverage switch into the one receiver and the 
second output from the K9AY switch into the other receiver.  This allows each 
receiver to listen to a different Beverage.  The K9AY switch also allows 
selection of multiple Beverages.

   - the same antenna into both receivers, effectively taking the K3 out of 
diversity mode.

73
Frank
W3LPL

---- Original message ----
>Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 09:01:13 -0600
>From: "Larry M" <retire@means.net>  
>Subject: Re: Topband: Preferred Topband transceiver  
>To: <topband@contesting.com>
>
>Do you guys really worry about diversity reception during contests?  Really? 
>I just worry about the responding station(s) being in my passband.  (Which 
>begs the question of why so many guys can't zero beat me.) I'll admit that 
>the second excellent receive would be just great for diversity tuning, but 
>how big a deal is that really?
>
>I've been using a TT Orion II for years now, and dollar for dollar it's 
>tough to beat one for low band reception.  The unique roofing/AGC/DSP system 
>of the Orion II make it one of the best contest/dx radios I've ever used.
>
>Just look at the receiver data at Sherwood Engineering...the IC 7800 is so 
>far down the list (and falling) that to equate it's receiver performance 
>with that of the Orion, K-3, Flex 5000 and now the new FTDx5000 is simply 
>not dealing with the facts.  You have to spend a lot of bux to own a 7800, 
>and yes, its ergonomics are gorgeous, but there are rigs on the market with 
>better performance for a heck of a lot less money. 
>http://www.sherweng.com/table.html
>
>My .02.
>
>Larry, W0PR
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Barry N1EU" <barry.n1eu@gmail.com>
>To: "topBand List" <topband@contesting.com>
>Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 9:20 AM
>Subject: Re: Topband: Preferred Topband transceiver
>
>
>> It's the first transceiver with an uncompromising subreceiver that can be
>> used in tandem with the main receiver for stereo diversity reception.
>>
>> 73, Barry N1EU
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 10:31 PM, GERRY <telwest@telusplanet.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I'd like to understand what makes the K3 "hear" better. What they call
>>> roofing filters are simple 9 mhz Crystal filter know as 1st IF in older
>>> radios. DSP filtering has been around now for years and have certainly
>>> evolved in all radios. Can anyone quote side by side experiences with 
>>> other
>>> modern radios (like an FT-5000) where the K3 was hearing weak 160 signals
>>> and the other radio was not.
>>>
>>> Gerry VE6LB
>>> who may be in the market
>>> someday soon
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Barry N1EU" <barry.n1eu@gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 6:31 AM
>>> To: "topBand List" <topband@contesting.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Topband: Preferred Topband transceiver
>>>
>>> > On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 11:35 PM, Frank Davis <fdavis@nfld.net> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> 14 - K3  with or without 2nd rx
>>> >> 3  - Orion I
>>> >> 2  - TS850
>>> >> 2  - TS590
>>> >> 1 - FT1000MP (vintage)
>>> >> 1 - FT2000
>>> >> 1 - FT1000D
>>> >> 1 - Omni VI
>>> >> 1 - Omni VII
>>> >>
>>> >> It wasn't unexpected to me that the K3 would be very popular.  What 
>>> >> was
>>> >> surprising to me was the total lack of mention of any of the higher 
>>> >> end
>>> >> Yaesu or Icom rigs.
>>> >> I also expected Orion II and the Omni VII to place high but that seems
>>> to
>>> >> not be the case.
>>> >> The K3 is the rig of choice these days for topband due mainly to weak
>>> >> signal capability and selectivity.
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > What these results also indicate is that serious Topbanders are early
>>> > adopters of new receiver technology that promise an advantage in
>>> > weak/strong
>>> > signal conditions.  This was the case with the Orion I (e.g., narrow
>>> > roofing
>>> > filter + dsp) and later with the K3 (e.g., dual identical rx).
>>> >
>>> > 73, Barry N1EU
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