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Re: Topband: Inverted L SWR Jumps ???

To: Ashton Lee <Ashton.R.Lee@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: Inverted L SWR Jumps ???
From: "Jack Henry, OA4TT" <n6xq@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 09:03:43 -0800 (PST)
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Hi Ashton,

I had some arcing into a coral tree at the 20 ft level.  The vertical part of 
the inverted L was  supported by a 40 ft bamboo pole that was nested close to 
the coral tree.  The wire was #14 with varnish that probably had long 
departed.  As the wind blew, the wire would come in contact with a branch and 
burn into it.  I was running an old TL-922 which doesn't have any fancy 
protection so it kept on doing it's job.  This was at about 1 kW.  I didn't 
notice any observations in the shack until my wife came screaming into the 
house that the tree was on fire.  I burnt halfway through a 3 inch  diameter 
branch. So there is a possibility this might be the problem depending on how 
your wire is routed.

73  Jack



--- On Tue, 11/27/12, Ashton Lee <Ashton.R.Lee@hotmail.com> wrote:

From: Ashton Lee <Ashton.R.Lee@hotmail.com>
Subject: Topband: Inverted L SWR Jumps ???
To: topband@contesting.com
Date: Tuesday, November 27, 2012, 9:49 PM

So I am trying to get set up better on 160 meters. I now have two antennas up 
(pretty well separated). One is an Alpha Delta DX A sloper hung in a tree with 
a grounding wire led to a ground rod and small radial field. The other is an 
inverted L on a good radial system of about 2000 feet in various lengths of 
about 50 feet each as fit the yard. Both are resonant at about 1.830 .

The sloper loads fine all the way up to 1500 watts. The inverted L loads just 
fine to about 700 watts and then causes the Alpha amp to fault out. I think I 
am getting a sudden change in antenna impedance. The antenna is fed through a 5 
KW rated choke balun. The feed line exits the base between radials. I've tried 
various feed line lengths, I've replaced every component in the system except 
for the antenna wire. The antenna does climb along the branches of a tall pine 
before L-ing outward at about 55 feet. I think the problem is worse at night 
time when things are cold (and perhaps more humid).

What I see on the amp is output power suddenly seem to surge to 2500 watts, and 
reflected power jump from a few watts to over what the amp can read… then in a 
flash the amp faults out. This all happens with only about 20 watts of drive, 
so the amp can't actually be putting out 2500 watts unless something very 
strange has happened. As I noted, using the other antenna all is good.

I need to get the inverted L working since it seems to have substantial receive 
gain vs the sloper, so I assume it will be equally better on transmit.

All advice is welcome. Am I likely to be "arc-ing" to the tree branches? Could 
the wire be the problem? Do inverted L's have trouble with full power? The same 
wire worked fine for the last few years, but fed against a much lesser radial 
field and run through a less dense, lower tree.

I'll be trying everything I can think of tomorrow afternoon, starting by trying 
to minimize contact with the tree branches. All suggestions welcome.

73
KQ0C
Ash
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