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Re: Topband: Grounding the ends of radials

To: Charlie Cunningham <charlie-cunningham@nc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: Grounding the ends of radials
From: Bill Wichers <billw@waveform.net>
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 21:26:34 +0000
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It seems to me that whether or not one grounded the far end of a radial would 
make no difference. I don't see why one would want to ground the end of their 
radial, but if it was done with a ground rod that's not really much of a 
"ground" for rf. Think about it: a single ground rod at the base of a vertical 
isn't going to provide much of a "ground" -- that's why we need radials. A 
ground rod at the far end of a radial will provide a similar crummy rf ground 
thus limiting any effect it would have on that radial at rf.  

Also, for any reasonable number of radials resonance doesn't really matter 
since its providing a ground screen (for on- or under-ground radials). The 
radial network is a non-resonant counterpoise. 

-Bill

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On Jan 25, 2014, at 3:58 PM, "Charlie Cunningham" 
<charlie-cunningham@nc.rr.com> wrote:

> I generally agree with you, Bob - especially with regard to not grounding
> the far ends of 1/4 wave radials!!  After all what we are trying to
> establish is a low-impedance "image plane" for the vertical radiator to be
> fed against! A 1/4 wave wire, grounded at the far end would have a high
> impedance to ground at the base, or feed-point, of the antenna!  Makes no
> sense! Would not result in a very favorable "driving-point impedance!
> 
> 73,
> Charlie, K4OTV
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Bob
> Eldridge
> Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2014 3:46 PM
> To: topband@contesting.com
> Subject: Topband: Grounding the ends of radials
> 
>> I posted this on TowerTalk and I got a couple of responses as to why 
>> the  ends of ground radials should not be grounded.
>  Isn't it dependent on whether you want the radials resonant or not?  And
> if you do want them resonant, on the length of the radial?
>  It doesn't make sense to ground the far end of a quarter wave radial if
> you want a low impedance at the base of the antenna.  It does make sense if
> you have short radials and want to intercept the "return current".
> Bob VE7BS 
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