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Re: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff

To: "Tom W8JI" <w8ji@w8ji.com>, <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff
From: "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2014 10:46:37 -0400
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Preform comes from the name of a major grip manufacturer, not from "tower apes".
http://www.preformed.com/

** Which has never been denied by anyone in this discussion. OTOH linemen and other strand installers use it as a general description thus my tower ape terminology.



Dead end is the termination style of grip.
http://www.preformed.com/index.php?option=com_phocadownload&view=category&id=15&Itemid=145


** Also previously discussed


The normal "Guy Grip dead end" is typically used on any shorter length guy line that does not have rotational or twisting forces, and they are normally are rated at 100% of stand breaking strength (but you should check the catalog specs because some are less).

** As are the Big Grips rated at strand strength.



The "Big Grip dead end" is the Prefomed Line Products name for the longer grips, and are better for longer guy runs that might twist.

PLP manufactures custom grips that are not cataloged. PLP would probably be a better place for application advice than Ham tower parts vendors (who sell some pretty sketchy stuff at times) or Ham reflectors. :)


** PLP marketing is aimed at commercial and industrial applications and not hobbiests. Their idea of a radio tower starts where most ham versions let off.



Every tower failure I have seen has come from incorrectly installed guy strand, saddle clamps, or anchors. I've seen towers where people splice guy lines with dead ends looped through dead ends!


** Ive even seen some with RatShak guy wire which is maybe 1/8. Ive never used an inline splice either.


It's common to see someone
worry enough to buy extra long grips (which doesn't do much for strength), > and then not worry about radius inside the loop (which just kills the strength).


** Good points

Carl
KM1H




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