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Re: Topband: That 1.9 MHz radar signal...

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Subject: Re: Topband: That 1.9 MHz radar signal...
From: Rick Stealey <>
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 00:45:21 +0000
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In order to identify the location of the transmitter by radio methods (as 
opposed to Doug's contacts identifying the culprit) it is eventually going to 
require some more accurate antenna patterns than you get from Beverages and 
other rather broad pattern antennas. 
If you will remember three years ago we had a spur on 1818 and began the same 
way, with lots of signal reports of strength (of limited value due to all the 
variables), some "Beverage reports" such as "It's stronger on my NE Bev than my 
east Bev."  But it was Don, WD8DSB in indiana, with three flag type antennas 
who took careful measurements and eventually identified the general area as 
being south Jersey.
What enabled us to drive right up to the door (figuratively) of the spur 
generator back then was only THREE readings, taken by me, with a portable loop 
antenna.  Don plotted the vectors, and since I was essentially driving in a 
circle around the source he was able to triangulate the source right to a city 
block.  It may not be that easy this time because the area hasn't been narrowed 
down small enough yet.   The advantage of a loop is not that it points toward 
the signal, but that it points AWAY from the signal, at 90 degrees, and is very 
sharp.  This is nothing new whatsoever.  In fact it is amazingly simple.  I 
built the loop that found that spur in only a total of four hours.  All it 
takes is some pvc pipe, and joints, and glue them together and wrap 4 turns of 
wire and a coupling loop for. 50 ohm coax.  The hardest part, naturally, is to 
find an interested person who will take such an antenna for a one day ride, say 
around New Brunswick and get some bearings.  Initially, 
 since we are not sure of the area, it may require a trip of several hundred km 
(as they say in Canada).  I would be very tempted to take a trip, but have been 
lax in renewing my passport and they won't let me cross the border anymore 
without one.  Damn !

Rick  K2XT

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> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 19:22:27 -0500
> Subject: Re: Topband: That 1.9 MHz radar signal...
> >  Stay tuned, and any additional reports are welcome...I think we have
> narrowed it down to something in the Maine/New Brunswick.Nova Scotia areas.
> >
> > 73,
> > Doug K1DG
> I would also put Newfoundland in the region of interest.  From my location
> in the greater Boston area, the direction of arrival is more east than
> northeast (around 75 deg as I said earlier).  I get the same heading every
> time I measure the signal and I'm confident in my ability to resolve
> directions with my RX array.  The F/B I see on this signal with my array
> suggests the signal is not particularly high angle.  The area around St.
> John's, Newfoundland area would be right in line with my estimated direction
> of arrival.
> 73, John W1FV
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