Larry:
The number of US hams isn't the issue, it's the number of DXers working
each DXpedition. And the better number to look at is uniques.
My Dayton presentation is here:
www.ncdxf.org/misc/N1DG-DXpeditioncosts-Dayton2012.ppt
My NCDXF article is here on pages 5 through 7 :
http://www.ncdxf.org/newsletters/2012-AUTUMN.pdf
Since I did the research, NCDXF has received updated information from its
grantees that has not changed the results presented.
Don
N1DG
At 09:11 AM 2/7/2015, Larry wrote:
The last time I saw numbers several years ago the US had something like
530,000 licensed hams which I think was more than all other countries
together (or close to it). No way to know what percentage are DXers and
possibly concerned with working a particular DXpedition. However, it might
be more relevant if the percentages of financing were percentages of DXers
that contributed. It may be still skewed of course. The percentage of QSOs
doesn't really account for propagation or distance to between the
DXpedition site and DXer QTH. I have been on the radio at times where
working the next county (let alone another country) was an amazing feat on
HF but I have also been on at times where you could work just about any
place in the world at the same time. When I have operated from XV openings
to the East Coast of the US have not been very often and are usually of
short duration. Openings to South America even fewer and more challenging.
Openings to Europe are usually everyday. It certainly has an effect on
where the QSOs are made. 73, Larry W6NWS -----Original Message----- From:
Doug Renwick Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 8:36 AM To: 'Victor
Goncharsky' ; garry@ni6t.com ; topband@contesting.com Subject: Re:
Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers DX Expedition finances The point that Garry
is making, he did it very well, is that EU as a group should contribute
more than what they are presently doing. And he is right. Doug
-----Original Message----- Garry, In the good old days when I was learning
the art of ham radio from Don Miller's DX and contest operations and my
Dad UB5WF, I've got an idea of the ham spirit that makes all of us equal
under the Sun. This is the corner stone of our hobby - the equality, no
matter how much one's paid for the hardware and antennae or has donated
for a certain expedition. You presume that although we are equal, the
country which paid more is more equal then the others. I think this is
completely wrong. In fact, how can you distinguish between those US hams
who paid and those who not? Does it mean that their countrymen, in
accordance with your theory, have paid for their free lunch? I was
fortunate to have them all before the era of unproportionally expensive
dxpeditions and accompanying aggressive fundraising has come. ðÑÔÎÉÃÁ, 06
ÆÅ×ÒÁÌÑ 2015, 18:27 -08:00 ÏÔ Garry Shapiro
<garry@ni6t.com>: >Dado, > >When you go to see a film, do you expect your
neighbor to buy your >ticket? Do you complain when you do not like the
film? > >When you buy a car, do you expect your neighbor to pay the
dealer? Do >you complain when the car is not perfect? > >When you go to a
restaurant, do you expect your neighbor to buy you >dinner? Do you
complain if you do not like the food? > >If you do, and get away with it,
then you go right ahead and let your >fellow hams pay for your DXing. You
are obviously an important person >and deserve such consideration. ;-) >It
therefore must be a privilege for me to support your hobby for you, >and
thank you. > >Back during the Arab oil embargo in 1973, there was a very
popular >bumper sticker in the US which said: > >"Gas, grass or a**:
nobody rides free." That is American slang, but I >think you can figure
it out. > >Garry, NI6T > --- This email has been checked for viruses by
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