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Re: Topband: Remote now DXCC??

To: "'W0MU Mike Fatchett'" <w0mu@w0mu.com>, <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: Remote now DXCC??
From: "Doug Renwick" <ve5ra@sasktel.net>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 12:02:43 -0600
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Yes the DXCC award you have earned is yours.
But the problem is the publishing of the standings.  The cheaters,
commercial RHR users, ethical types are all grouped together.  If the
standings were not published, highlighted, promoted then it would be a
personal award.  But when ALL are grouped together in the standings by call
sign and totals, then it becomes an issue.

No, the ARRL recognizes they can't/don't want to control the cheaters and so
have abdicated their responsibility in setting ethical standards. 

Doug 

I wasn't born in Saskatchewan, but I got here as soon as I could.

-----Original Message-----

Why are we centered on remote operations dirtying up the DXCC program?  
DXCC is far from clean now and from the limited amount of reading 
available people have been scamming DXCC long before I was licensed in 1978.

The ARRL recognizes that this is a new and upcoming technology and the 
more and more people will be using it.

The DXCC program is based on YOUR moral and ethical fiber not to cheat.  
We through some card checking in there and catch a few problems here and 
there.

I was doing an audit of my award and found and number of typos that gave 
me credit for countries I never worked on certain bands.  I alerted the 
DXCC desk and they fixed them.  How many other people are going to take 
the time to do what I did and then willingly remove a confirmation.  I 
would hope most, but many don't care.

We know people have been using excessive and illegal power for years and 
years.

People have submitted QSL cards that have been altered or submitted 
cards that for countries they have never worked.

We know people said they want to places they did not.  How many did we 
catch vs how many that were not.  How many of you know things have never 
been reported.

Remote receivers.  Remote Xmitters.

The DXCC award that you earn is yours.   How you get there is up to you 
and your integrity, morals, ethics, etc.  The cheating has been going on 
for years and years and years.  Remote is just another avenue for  a 
cheater to use.

The issuing of a DXCC award to someone else has no bearing on your 
award.  Nothing changed.  You didn't drop a spot or gain a spot. Your 
standing is based on the number of countries you have worked and claimed.

If the ARRL did not make money selling plaques and certificates and LOTW 
credits do you really think they would be pushing it?  The Centennial 
QSO party was marketing genius.  They sold tons of LOTW credits and 
awards.  They are not making any money from my Life Membership that I 
paid for 30 years ago.

Ham radio is centered around the vast majority of people doing it right 
and they do.  For the most part we are a self policing group.

Just like packet, remote radio is here, has been here for a while and it 
is never going away.  Remote radio is not going affect your awards and 
you will probably never know if and when you work remote stations.

The only problems I see are perceived problems that might happen or that 
have been happening for years that most just never knew about. Running 
remote from W7 and not telling people that your Xmitter is in Virginia 
is just one bad apple.  He should do what is right.  How many slims have 
we all worked?  Plenty.  What was the result of that?  Go work the 
station again.


Mike W0MU



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