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Re: Topband: Salt-Water Qth!

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Subject: Re: Topband: Salt-Water Qth!
From: Don Greenbaum <don@aurumtel.com>
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2015 14:26:50 -0400
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In 1997 I moved from a home about 1/2 mile from the ocean to oceanfront property (I live on an inlet). I put up a hytower with a 160 wire (inverted L). This was the same antenna I had inland that I was struggling with. I just could NOT believe the difference. Instead of fighting pileups I was in and out with a contact. In 2005, I bought Titanex Vertical and my dxcc 160 total has now gone from 106 to 261. And, my Titanex has only 2 radials on it. The hytower inland had 32 radials. On 80 long path I had never heard a JA from my old QTH. I now work South East Asia easily during the winter and am at 335 countries with WAZ there.

One downside, any antenna this close to the salt water CONSTANTLY needs attention due to the salt.

Here are two views of it. The first view faces South. The second faces North:

http://www.nookhill.com/lookingout.jpg
http://www.nookhill.com/inthewoods.jpg

Don
N1DG


On 4/1/2015 7:47 AM, HVT wrote: > This is my first post to the Top-Band Reflector, so please excuse my ignorance if this topic has been discussed in the past. > > Is there any scientific data in print to prove the theory that ocean front property is better than a location inland about a mile or so on a ridge overlooking salt water for HF. I had this heated debate over the weekend with two ham friends of mine while we traveled to Maine looking at real-estate along the coast. I understand the theory that verticals literally in or on the water have a huge advantage. The debate was about how far away from the water does it become a diminishing effect. I made the claim that the Ocean-Front property would be a better location than anything inland including a location on a ridge within a mile. This heated debate went on for about 500 miles while we were driving back to NY. It was a very interesting conversation and made the long drive back much quicker! :) > > Additional information about the debate: > > In the State of Maine there is a setback regulation on shoreline property regarding structures including radio towers. To play it safe with the shoreline protective rules, the proposed array system would be setback minimum 500â?? from the water or as far back as 2000'. At these distances on 80/160 meter will a vertical antenna system see any positive effects with additional gain from the salt water? > > What about horizontal antennas? Do they see any effects from Salt-Water? > > I'm sure I can use HFTA to model the terrain, which I have done in the past with great accuracy. However, I'm not sure if it calculates Salt-Water. Maybe it does. > > We are anxious to start building in Maine ASAP. Any input would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Ray W2RE > W2RE.com > > > Sent from my iPhone > _________________ > Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _________________ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband


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