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Re: Topband: 75 ohm RG6 to 50 Ohm radio

To: Ed Stallman <ed.n5dg@gmail.com>, "topband@contesting.com" <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: 75 ohm RG6 to 50 Ohm radio
From: Grant Saviers <grants2@pacbell.net>
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 07:45:21 -0700
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One thing that W8JI clarified for me in winding binocular cores is what is a "turn". Normally, a wire thru a toroid hole is a "turn". A binocular core is two toroids in a single piece of ferrite. Tom proposed calling a wire in one side of a binocular core a "pass" and thru both sides a "turn". Thus, 2.5 "turns" are possible with 5 "passes". Usually, a "turn" by authors means 2 "passes" but there are exceptions.

With the different windings coming out of opposite ends there will be a little less stray coupling and it makes it easier to connect them to their respective connectors. If there is no ground path between the conductors then you have an isolation transformer which can reduce noise pickup.

I use small watertight plastic boxes I found on ebay for all sorts of receive antenna projects, very well made.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Clear-Waterproof-Cover-Plastic-Electronic-Project-Box-Enclosure-CASE-85x58x33mm/201653764558?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D39007%26meid%3D1c6a2a52ecb446888faad4eadfecbe82%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D18%26sd%3D262605424625

If you use some 30ga insulated wire wrap wire, it is less fragile against the ferrite and has a higher isolation voltage between the windings than enamel insulation. A little RTV or hot melt keeps the core secured to the box.

Grant KZ1W

On 9/27/2016 20:46 PM, Lee STRAHAN wrote:
  Yes Ed, You have the right numbers. It won't matter which windings are first 
or last. You can even wind 4 then wind 1 more and use it as an autotransformer 
where the 1 turn is added to the 4 for 5. Any of these will work fine at these 
TOP Band and higher frequencies. This ratio is not perfect but will work just 
fine. It would be 50 to 78 ohms which in our world is close enough.
  Let us know how your new 8 circle works. Maybe even compare it to your Hi-Z 
4-square.
Lee   K7TJR

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From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Ed Stallman
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 8:35 PM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Topband: 75 ohm RG6 to 50 Ohm radio

My receive antenna is 75 Ohm RG6 connected to my radio and I want to wind a 
2873000202 binocular core to step 75 to 50 Ohm's . I seen this info on W8JI web 
page but can't seem to find it again.

I do remember it's 4 turns 50 Ohm and 5 turns 75 Ohm and all wires come out the 
same side of the core . Am I correct so far?

Does it make a difference which winding I wind first ?

Thanks in advance , Ed N5DG



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