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Re: Topband: future of ham radio

To: "Mark K3MSB" <mark.k3msb@gmail.com>, "Bob Wolters" <bobw5xc@hal-pc.org>
Subject: Re: Topband: future of ham radio
From: "Steve Baughn" <baughn@centurylink.net>
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2017 15:59:15 -0400
List-post: <mailto:topband@contesting.com>
Mark,

It is not a matter of someone "not liking" a discussion but there should be some reasonable conclusion at some point-and some of the topics could be discussed ad infinitum such as this one. It is also not just a matter of hitting the delete button-every time you check you phone for emails there are 25-30 on the same thing over a course of days. At some point it gets a little old and time to move on.

Steve, WD8NPL



-----Original Message----- From: Mark K3MSB
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 3:27 PM
To: Bob Wolters
Cc: topBand List
Subject: Re: Topband: future of ham radio

The "Delete" key is a wonderful thing.      Just because you don't like a
discussion thread doesn't mean others feel the same way.    Nobody is
forcing you to read anything you don't want to.

I've been contemplating both sides of this discussion, and others, whose
points I don't agree with, believe it or not have given me food for thought.

There have been a lot of good examples in this thread that I plan to use in
a letter to the ARRL.

Someone wanting a discussion banned or stopped, just because they don't
like it, is the height of arrogance.

This topic is relevant not only to TB but also to amateur radio in
general.   As long as it's kept civil, I'm willing to listen.

Mark K3MSB




On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 12:00 PM, Bob Wolters <bobw5xc@hal-pc.org> wrote:

Is there another more appropriate forum/reflector for discussions of
different modes and operating habits and history ?

A place to discuss personal beliefs ?

The below were just a few examples of the discussions filling up the
topband mailbox and my mail box this week and
seem to have little to do with top band itself.  They are NOT directed at
Mike or Roger below.

Thanks in advance and 73,

Bob                 W5XC



-----Original Message-----
From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of W0MU
Mike Fatchett
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 9:31 AM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: future of ham radio

Roger,

Do you work FT8?  Have you attempted to work any DX on FT8?  It takes some
skill.

There are different skillsets required.  I could argue it takes little
skill to buy a 10kw amplifier a remote radio membership and use remote
receivers all over the world takes little skill too.

Please stop demeaning others that happen to like a part of the hobby you
do not.   What is interesting to you is not interesting to others.

Did you read where there are more FT8 uploads to Clublog than SSB and CW
combined?  Sorry this is a great thing for the hobby. People are making
contacts and actually using the bands.

W0MU


On 10/28/2017 3:42 AM, Roger Kennedy wrote:
> I appreciate the point about trying to get youngsters interested in
> the hobby . . .
>
> However, the trouble with the computer-based Digital modes is that
> there is no SKILL involved in having a contact - it's your Computer
having a contact!
>
> That lack of skill and therefore achievement is what gets people
> hooked into a hobby - if there's none they will quickly become bored.
>
> Look what happened with the countless new Amateurs (with new
> easy-to-get-licences) who just came on VHF and used Repeaters - they
> quickly got bored and most are now inactive, unless they were
> fortunate to have someone show them how satisfying making REAL contacts
can be.
>
> The same can be said about Motor Racing . . . if the cars people used
> getting into the sport all had ABS, Traction Control, Automatic
> Transmission etc etc it would be pretty boring and they'd soon lose
interest.
>
> 73 Roger G3YRO
>
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