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Re: Topband: RG-6 Delay cables

To: Lee STRAHAN <k7tjr@msn.com>, "topband@contesting.com" <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: RG-6 Delay cables
From: "Richard (Rick) Karlquist" <richard@karlquist.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 12:49:28 -0700
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On 4/8/2020 10:37 AM, Lee STRAHAN wrote:
Good morning from Oregon Top-Band people,

Cable loss was -.61 dB at 59 Deg. F,  And -.58 dB at an averaged cable 
temperature of 23 Deg. F.
59 Deg. F                  23 Deg. F
1 - 74.59 DEG          -74.60  DEG.
2 - 74.59 DEG         -74.60  DEG.
3 - 74.59 DEG         -74.60  DEG.
4 - 74.59 DEG         -74.60  DEG.
5  -74.60  DEG         -74.60  DEG.
6 -74.60  DEG          -74.60  DEG.
7 -74.60  DEG          -74.60  DEG.
8 -74.60  DEG          -74.60  DEG.
9 -74.60  DEG          -74.60  DEG.
10 -74.60  DEG        -74.60  DEG.

My bottom line conclusion is that for our purposes on the top-bands I no longer 
wonder if the cable delay and attenuation remained constant with winter 
deployed arrays.
Incidentally, T&B Snap and Seal have been the best connectors here for 
repeatability.

Lee Strahan
K7TJR


These numbers seem too good to be true.
The tempco works out to less than 7 PPM/°C.
Consider that the coefficient of thermal
expansion of copper is +17PPM/°C.

Refer to Figure 7 of this:

https://www.timesmicrowave.com/DataSheets/Literature/Current%20innovations%20in%20phase%20stable%20coaxial%20cable.pdf

The graph on the right shows non-linear tempco curves.
When you have non linearity like this,
it is possible to pick two points on the curve
such that a line drawn through them has a slope of zero.
Maybe you ran into that.

The numbers you reported for the loss seem roughly
consistent with what the thermal coefficient of
resistance of copper predicts.

Rick N6RK
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