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[TowerTalk] Stack 10m yagi w/ C-3E?

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Subject: [TowerTalk] Stack 10m yagi w/ C-3E?
From: n4kg@juno.com (n4kg@juno.com)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 21:22:22 -0600
Dan,

At 85 ft your patterns will be as follows:

10M  

Lobe    3 to 9 degrees  (1600 to 2300 miles)
Lobe    15 to 20 degrees (900 to 1200 miles)
NULL    10 to 14 degrees (1200 to 1600 miles)

15M

Lobe    4 to 11.5 degrees (1300 to 2000 miles)
Lobe    20 to 27  degrees ( 700  to  900 miles)
NULL    12 to 20 degrees  ( 900  to 1300 miles)

20M

Lobe     5 to 18 degrees  (1000 to 1900 miles)
Lobe    31 to 41 degrees ( 450 to 600 miles)
NULL    19 to 30 degrees ( 600 to 1000 miles)

Notice the SUBSTANTIAL  NULLS at the mimimum
to mid skip distances on each band.

Now look at the patterns at 45 ft

10M   Lobe  5 to 18 degrees  ( 1000 to 1900 miles)

15M   Lobe  6 to 22 degrees  ( 850  to 1800 miles)

20M   Lobe  9 to 37 degrees  ( 500 to 1500 miles)

Notice that the short distances correspond to the
typical skip distances for each band.  In other words,
a high band antenna at 45 ft will give the MAXIMUM
coverage for domestic contests.  

(FWIW, during daylight hours I notice that my LOW 
antennas are usually much better for DX than my 75 to 95 ft 
high antennas on the high bands.  During darkness,  the high 
antennas are of course better for DX.)

>From Alabama to New England (800 miles) my TH7 at 40 ft 
is usually 20 dB stronger than my TH6 at 80 ft.

NO  SINGLE  ANTENNA  HEIGHT will cover ALL of the
angles supported by the ionosphere.

Your BEST configuration would be a 2L40 and tribander
at 87 ft and another tribander at 40 to 45 ft.  (and another
lower dipole or inverted vee at 50 ft for local coverage on 40M)

de  Tom  N4KG
.......................

On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 21:15:44 -0800 "Dan Levin" <djl@andlev.com> writes:
> 
> I finally decided to toss the old tribander and buy a C-3E.  I'm 
> praying
> that Tom gets it to me in time for SS SSB.  I'll have it at the top 
> of the mast at about 85'.
> 
> I was driving home tonight from dinner and realized that for the 10 
> meter
> contest, I could throw together a 2 or 3 element 10 meter monobander 
> and  mount it at the bottom of the mast, say 71'.  14' of separation 
> isn't really  enough, but it will be worth modeling.   NOT
> 
> But - will it work?  I don't have a Stackmatch, so I'd have to feed 
> them  with 1/4 wave phasing lines.  About all I really understand 
>about  stacking  is that it works much better with identical antennas
:-)  Does 
> anyone have  any thoughts on whether I can stack a beta matched 3
element 
> monobander with  a C-3E in this manner and get it to work?  I'd
appreciate any 
> comments or  suggestions!
> 
        Can you GUESS the phase relationship between a
        BETA match and a split dipole feed?  I can't. N4KG


> Thanks much,
> 
>             ***dan, N6BZA
> 
> 
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