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Subject: [Towertalk] Grounding an Elevated vertical
From: jreisert@jlc.net (Joe Reisert)
Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 14:12:02 -0500
Jon,

Just to set the record straight, the R7 is a 3/8 Wavelength design (versus 
the 3/16 WL you gave).

73,

Joe, W1JR


At 01:23 PM 3/7/2002 -0500, W4ZW wrote:

>Remember that the two most common "verticals", the R-7 series  by 
>Cushcraft and the DX-77 by Hy-gain are not 1/4 wave verticals. The R-7 is 
>a 3/16 wl vertical and the DX-77 is a hybrid windom fed 1/2 wave vertical.
>
>I've found that both antennas work better if they are elevated to minimize 
>ground losses. I have found the R-7 and DX-77 to be excellent performers 
>when elevated at least 1/4 wl above ground, or even better 1/2 wave above 
>ground on their lowest cut frequency. That's about 66'  or 1 full wl on 
>20M.   I read W4RNL's piece to say that the radials made a difference of 
>less than 1Db over poor ground diminishing as the existing ground improved 
>(less lossy).  Note that this observation was for vertical dipoles that 
>were virtually ground mounted. Dipoles should exhibit less ground loss 
>than verticals since they are electrically and physically complete.
>
>Both the R-7 and the DX-77 use a counterpoise to minimize ground losses, 
>not eliminate them. I would love to see a direct comparison of these 
>"radial free"  verticals and a true dipole vertical.  The Force 12 ZR-3 is 
>a short vertical dipole that uses linear loading  by means of rings to 
>achieve electrical and physical length.   Even as short as it is, I would 
>not be surprised to see it perform better than a ground mounted 
>"radial-free" vertical.
>
>I have done rather extensive on-the-air comparisons of the R-7 and the 
>DX-77 as compared to a tribander and a dipole, but the antennas were all 
>mounted above 150' in one test and above 240' in the other so they won't 
>track most installations. I did find that the vertical often gave me 
>better DX take-offs than the dipole and on some occasions better than the 
>tribanders. I expect that was due mostly to polarization.  I, for one, 
>think they are pretty good antennas for what they are. Simple to install 
>and small real estate requirements providing you can get them up at least 
>33' in the air which is about 1/2 wl on 20M.   A push-up mast works pretty 
>well.  Automatic band switching for seven bands in a compact package makes 
>an attractive package for the real estate challenged.  I even installed a 
>R-7 on a 10' mast on the roof of my house in a deed restricted community 
>rigged with a gate hinge and pulleys.  I made a small saddle for the 
>antenna to lie in while horizontal to protect the upper capacity hat.  At 
>night I simply pulled my line and I was on the air.  It even worked while 
>horizontal with my FT-1000D's built-in tuner.  My neighbors believed it 
>was an elaborate lightening system.
>
>Now that I have no restrictions, I'm back to yagis and wire arrays, but I 
>still keep one R-7 or DX-77 up as an alternate antenna.
>
>
>Jon Hamlet, W4ZW
>Casey Key Island, Florida
>
>"A little bit of paradise in the Gulf of Mexico"


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