Makes sense to me...
I notice that damaged places on my trees do NOT rise with age...
the bark eventually grows over the damaged place.
BTW, sometime ago, a knowledgable tree person
posted on TowerTalk that the BEST way to guy or
anchor to a tree is to bore a hole through the tree
or use a screw eye for small loads and NEVER
wrap around the tree which cuts off circulation
and CAN kill or damage the tree.
Tom N4KG
On Sun, 08 Sep 2002 18:47:26 -0000 "Barry " <w2up@mindspring.com> writes:
> While I'm no botanist, as far as I know, trees get taller from the
> tips of
> their branches. The base doesn't rise. So, if you put at anchor at
> the 5 ft
> level, it will always be at the 5 ft level. It won't be at 50 ft 10
> years from
> now :.)
> I'm I'm wrong, pse correct me!
> 73,
> Barry W2UP
>
>
> On 8 Sep 2002 Jerry Keller wrote:
>
> > Yes, that's what I was thinking. If one put the guy to the base of
> the tree,
> > there's virtually no movement... except a slow movement upwards as
> the tree
> > grows. If a large deeprooted tree (oak or whatever) were used, it
> could be
> > good for a long time. I was looking for anyone with experience
> with
> > fastening, such as methods & tools to drill a hole through a
> two-foot or
> > more hardwood tree trunk. Jerry K3BZ
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jon Zaimes AA1K [mailto:jon.zaimes@dol.net]
> > Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 1:08 PM
> > To: k3bz@arrl.net; towertalk@contesting.com
> > Subject: RE: [Towertalk] screw in anchors
> >
> >
> > Jerry,
> >
> > A long time ago in a call area not too far from Delaware, I guyed
> 70 feet
> > of Rohn 25 to large hardwoods, perhaps 2 feet diameter. I wrapped
> several
> > turns of EHS guy cable around the tree and secured with cable
> clamps. I
> > used large nails to keep this loop from sliding up the tree. Every
> year or
> > two I would loosen up the cable slightly to keep it from growing
> into the
> > tree, and from strangling the tree and killing it. The turnbuckles
> for the
> > guys attached to the steel guy wires looped around the tree.
> >
> > Of course now we all know to follow the manufacturers instructions
> -- or at
> > least use something stronger.
> >
> > While it is true if the anchor tree falls it will take down the
> tower, if
> > the tree not used as a guy anchor falls, it also will likely take
> down the
> > tower if it falls on the guys (unless you have Rohn 55 or bigger).
> >
> > Recently I took down a 125 foot Rohn 25 tower that had been up
> about 20
> > years. Two of the three guys used large trees as anchors. The
> trees were
> > about 2.5 to 3 ft diameter, and had a large eye bolt bored through
> or into
> > the tree. The tree had grown around the eye bolt in one case and
> we had to
> > cut the guy free.
> >
> > These guys were up 8-12 feet above ground. I don't know how high
> they were
> > when the tower was installed.
> >
> > 73/Jon AA1K
> >
> >
> > At 10:39 AM 9/8/02 -0400, you wrote:
> > >If trees can be used as masts or towers, what about using them as
> guy
> > >anchors? Has anyone had any experience with doing that? Jerry
> K3BZ
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: towertalk-admin@contesting.com
> > >[mailto:towertalk-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of n4kg@juno.com
> > >Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 9:00 AM
> > >To: TOWERTALK@contesting.com
> > >Subject: Re: [Towertalk] screw in anchors
> > >
> > >
> > >On Sun, 08 Sep 2002 07:09:20 -0500 Jon Ogden <na9d@speakeasy.net>
> writes:
> > >
> > > SNIP
> > >>
> > >> Let me tell you, those screw anchors did NOT go in easily.
> > >> Very difficult to put in. I could feel when I hit the clay
> and rocks.
> > >
> > >> One of the anchors got most of the way down and hit rock.
> > >> If we tried cranking it further, we just would twist the guy
> > >> rod itself.
> > >>
> > >> I think they should hold pretty well.
> > >>
> > >> 73, Jon NA9D
> > >>
> > >
> > >The BEST time to install screw-in anchors is after
> > >a good soaking rain :-) Rocks are a bummer.
> > >If the anchor is only partially in the ground, it may
> > >be necessary to try remove it and try a slightly
> > >different location.
> > >
> > >Tom N4KG
> > >
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