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[TowerTalk] TowerTalk Digest, Vol 5, Issue 22 - Aluma Towers

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Subject: [TowerTalk] TowerTalk Digest, Vol 5, Issue 22 - Aluma Towers
From: W1GOR@Maine.RR.Com (W1GOR)
Date: Thu May 15 22:53:02 2003
Oooops, please see correction of the Aluma Tower web page... I was waiting
for the sun to go over the yardarm...<grin>

73, Larry - W1GOR


> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "LFeldman" <LFeldman@Maine.RR.Com>
> To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 19:09
> Subject: TowerTalk Digest, Vol 5, Issue 21 - Used ALUMA Tower Repairs
>
> > Gene,
> >
> > You can contact Aluma Tower Company directly for an instruction sheet or
> > manual that will help you to repair the brake mechanism.  Since these
> towers
> > are fabricated of aluminum, you will need to find a welder that can do
> > 'heliarc' welding.  Heliarc welding is a process that floods the welded
> area
> > with helium, an inert gas.  This process allows the welded joint to flow
> > without introducing oxidizers (air).  Be very sure that the welder knows
> > exactly what he is doing, because aluminum is not the most forgiving of
> > metals.
> >
> > Heliarc welding is also used to fabricate aircraft assemblies, so I'd
> > recommend finding a shop that also handles FAA approved aircraft
welding.
> > You'll pay a bit more for the service, but you'll be buying
peace-of-mind.
> >
> > The Aluma Tower Company has a web page at HTTP://WWW.ALUMATOWER.COM
(not http://www.aluma.com)

> >
> > Physical address:
> >
> > ALUMA TOWER COMPANY, INC.
> > 1639 Old Dixie Highway
> > Vero Beach, FL  32960
> >
> > Mailing Address:
> >
> > ALUMA TOWER COMPANY, INC.
> > P.O. Box 2806
> > Vero Beach, FL  32961-2806
> >
> > Voice:     772.567.3423
> > FAX:        772.567.3432
> >
> > Email   atc@alumatower.com
> >
> >
> > 73, Larry - W1GOR
> >
> > ////snip////
> >    1. Aluma tower t-150 (Gene Bigham)
To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
> > > Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 11:07:55 -0500
> > > From: "Gene Bigham" <jbigham2@kc.rr.com>
> > > To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
> > > Subject: [TowerTalk] Aluma tower t-150
> > > Message-ID: <001b01c31969$d085dc80$0900fea9@kc.rr.com>
> >
> > > Picked up used aluma tower, couple of small defects.  The brake =
> > > mechanism appears to be partially dismantled.  Anyone have a detail =
> > > drawing.  Also a couple of broken welds near top where mast pipe
clamps
> =
> > > on.  Any thoughts on welding those back?
> >
> > > Gene BighamFrom k7nv@contesting.com Thu May 15 02:18:10 2003
> > ////snip////
> >
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 00:04:40 -0000
> From: "RCARIELLO" <RCARIELLO@si.rr.com>
> To: <ac7nj@bentonrea.com>, <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Cc: 7ROMEOs@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: W7TT_Reflector@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Maximum Permissible Exposure (MPE)
> Message-ID: <000501c31b3e$c0b33c40$a971a818@si.rr.com>
> References:
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>
> Randy,
> Try this web site.
>
> http://n5xu.ae.utexas.edu/rfsafety/
>
> Rich AA2MF
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <ac7nj@bentonrea.com>
> To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Cc: <7ROMEOs@yahoogroups.com>; <W7TT_Reflector@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 10:58 PM
> Subject: [TowerTalk] Maximum Permissible Exposure (MPE)
>
>
> > Gentlemen,
> > My argument with the city for tower/antenna height is RF exposure, I
> > need that try bander (Cushcraft X9) higher than 35 feet.
> > I wanted 65 feet and the more I see about MPE it needs to be there.
> > I operate RTTY with a Kenwood TS-850S at 100 watts. With the average
> > height of a man 6 foot and a distance of 52.53 foot separation that
> > is 58.53 feet to the antenna?? If I did the calculations correctly
> >
> > Any and all opinions welcome on list or private
> >
> > Randy
> > AC7NJ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> > See: http://www.mscomputer.com  for "Self Supporting Towers", "Wireless
> Weather Stations", and lot's more.  Call Toll Free, 1-800-333-9041 with
any
> questions and ask for Sherman, W2FLA.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > TowerTalk mailing list
> > TowerTalk@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk
>
> ------------------------------
>
To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 19:32:35 -0500
> From: "Alan Young" <younga@worldnet.att.net>
> To: <TowerTalk@contesting.com>
> Subject: [TowerTalk] Erecting a 40' Universal tilt base tower
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> I am in need of some ideas on raising a tilt over base, 40 Universal =
> tower.  It is aluminum, with a rotator, 20 lb 9 ft. mast and a Force 12 =
> C3ss antenna that is about 30 lbs.  The tower can be walked up hand over =
> hand by myself without the ant, mast, and rotator, but we tried with 4 =
> large people and couldn't get it past about 30 degrees.  No more =
> leverage at our height.  Is it possible and wise to attatch a line at =
> the 30' level, route it above the peak of a roof and use a vehicle to =
> pull it up?  Any thoughts or suggestioins would be most helpful.
> Thanks,
> Alan Young
> ------------------------------
>
To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 17:34:43 -0700
> From: AA6DX <aa6dx@pacbell.net>
> To: towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk]  Fw: TowerTalk Digest, Vol 5,
>  Issue 21 - Used ALUMA Tower Repairs
> Message-ID: <002201c31b42$f1d38ab0$7662ce3f@desk>
> References: <012801c31b3d$1ad00020$8bd7c618@maine.rr.com>
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>
> Actually, you might wanna try this URL .. worky worky more better ...
> http://www.alumatower.com
> 73, y'all --- Mark, AA6DX
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "W1GOR" <W1GOR@Maine.RR.Com>
> To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 4:52 PM
> Subject: [TowerTalk] Fw: TowerTalk Digest, Vol 5, Issue 21 - Used ALUMA
> Tower Repairs
>
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "LFeldman" <LFeldman@Maine.RR.Com>
> > To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 19:09
> > Subject: TowerTalk Digest, Vol 5, Issue 21 - Used ALUMA Tower Repairs
> >
> >
> > > Gene,
> > >
> > > You can contact Aluma Tower Company directly for an instruction sheet
or
> > > manual that will help you to repair the brake mechanism.  Since these
> > towers
> > > are fabricated of aluminum, you will need to find a welder that can do
> > > 'heliarc' welding.  Heliarc welding is a process that floods the
welded
> > area
> > > with helium, an inert gas.  This process allows the welded joint to
flow
> > > without introducing oxidizers (air).  Be very sure that the welder
knows
> > > exactly what he is doing, because aluminum is not the most forgiving
of
> > > metals.
> > >
> > > Heliarc welding is also used to fabricate aircraft assemblies, so I'd
> > > recommend finding a shop that also handles FAA approved aircraft
> welding.
> > > You'll pay a bit more for the service, but you'll be buying
> peace-of-mind.
> > >
> > > The Aluma Tower Company has a web page at http://www.aluma.com
> > >
> > > Physical address:
> > >
> > > ALUMA TOWER COMPANY, INC.
> > > 1639 Old Dixie Highway
> > > Vero Beach, FL  32960
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 20:03:39 -0500
> From: Don Havlicek <n8de@thepoint.net>
> To: Alan Young <younga@worldnet.att.net>
> Cc: TowerTalk@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Erecting a 40' Universal tilt base tower
> Message-ID: <3EC438EB.40000@thepoint.net>
> References: <002001c31b42$a91939a0$ec89540c@toshiba>
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>
> Alan,
> Yes to your question .. it's easy to do that way  ![speaking from
> experience with lifting a 70' tower with three monobanders at the top
> doing just what you say]
> Don
> N8DE
>
> Alan Young wrote:
> > I am in need of some ideas on raising a tilt over base, 40 Universal
tower.  It is aluminum, with a rotator, 20 lb 9 ft. mast and a Force 12 C3ss
antenna that is about 30 lbs.  The tower can be walked up hand over hand by
myself without the ant, mast, and rotator, but we tried with 4 large people
and couldn't get it past about 30 degrees.  No more leverage at our height.
Is it possible and wise to attatch a line at the 30' level, route it above
the peak of a roof and use a vehicle to pull it up?  Any thoughts or
suggestioins would be most helpful.
> > Thanks,
> > Alan Young
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> > See: http://www.mscomputer.com  for "Self Supporting Towers", "Wireless
Weather Stations", and lot's more.  Call Toll Free, 1-800-333-9041 with any
questions and ask for Sherman, W2FLA.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > TowerTalk mailing list
> > TowerTalk@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 21:15:45 -0400
> From: "Roger Borowski" <K9RB@bellsouth.net>
> To: "z-TowerTalk" <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Subject: [TowerTalk] Hygain Bell Style Rotator Potentiometer
> Message-ID: <0c5b01c31b48$ae00f740$0200a8c0@rog>
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> Reply-To: Roger Borowski <K9RB@arrl.net>
> Message: 8
>
> I'm in need of a replacement potientiometer for a Hygain bell style =
> rotator. I believe they have been the same on all the Ham series =
> rotators from Ham-M through Ham IV's.=20
>
> With the Hamvention this weekend, I imagine most everyone like Norm's, =
> C.A.T.S./RotorDoc, and HyGain will be there and unavailable for a small =
> parts sale? Does anyone have any suggestion where I might be able to =
> obtain/place an order for one maybe tomorrow to expedite this repair for =
> my dear 80 year old friend, Jack-W9NJB prior to next week, after the =
> Hamvention.=20
>
> I'd even be happy with a used one if someone has a "parts unit" =
> available just to get him back up and running. I've done a complete =
> refurbishment on this unit and the very last thing that I found was the =
> open pot winding. Bummer! Terrible timing too.=20
>
> Thanks and 73, -=3DRog-K9RB=3D-
>
> ------------------------------
>
To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 18:16:32 -0700
> From: "Dan" <dhearn@ix.netcom.com>
> To: "Alan Young" <younga@worldnet.att.net>, <TowerTalk@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Erecting a 40' Universal tilt base tower
> Message-ID: <011801c31b48$ca73fc60$15e0bb3f@o3q0b7>
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>
> We have used an aluminum sectional ladder to push up a 60 foot aluminum
> tower past the difficult area you mentioned. A rope, tied near the tower
> top, was used to pull it up the last part of the raising. 73, Dan, N5AR
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alan Young <younga@worldnet.att.net>
> To: <TowerTalk@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 5:32 PM
> Subject: [TowerTalk] Erecting a 40' Universal tilt base tower
>
>
> I am in need of some ideas on raising a tilt over base, 40 Universal
tower.
> It is aluminum, with a rotator, 20 lb 9 ft. mast and a Force 12 C3ss
antenna
> that is about 30 lbs.  The tower can be walked up hand over hand by myself
> without the ant, mast, and rotator, but we tried with 4 large people and
> couldn't get it past about 30 degrees.  No more leverage at our height.
Is
> it possible and wise to attatch a line at the 30' level, route it above
the
> peak of a roof and use a vehicle to pull it up?  Any thoughts or
> suggestioins would be most helpful.
> Thanks,
> Alan Young
> _______________________________________________
>
> See: http://www.mscomputer.com  for "Self Supporting Towers", "Wireless
> Weather Stations", and lot's more.  Call Toll Free, 1-800-333-9041 with
any
> questions and ask for Sherman, W2FLA.
>
> _______________________________________________
> TowerTalk mailing list
> TowerTalk@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 01:18:41 -0000
> From: <kk9a@arrl.net>
> To: <TowerTalk@contesting.com>
> Subject: [TowerTalk] Erecting a 40' Universal tilt base tower
> Message-ID: <00bc01c31b49$16fa70a0$925e70d1@KK9A>
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>
> I erected a 30' Universal Tower with an antenna on top by walking it up.
I
> needed a  lot of help and it was very difficult.   I also had a rope near
> the top that someone was pulling on.  It is not as easy as the catalog
makes
> it appear.   I installed a 60' one with no top weight using a tow truck to
> pull it vertical.  I first tried using my SUV, but the pull height was too
> low and it was unsuccessful.  I installed my current 70' Universal Tower
> using a gin pole and putting up one piece at a time.   If you remove the
> antenna and rotor I'm sure you could walk up your 40' tower.  With no guy
> wires in the way it's easy to pull up the antenna later and attach it.
>
> 73,
> John
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alan Young" <younga@worldnet.att.net>
> To: <TowerTalk@contesting.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 00:32
> Subject: [TowerTalk] Erecting a 40' Universal tilt base tower
>
>
> I am in need of some ideas on raising a tilt over base, 40 Universal
tower.
> It is aluminum, with a rotator, 20 lb 9 ft. mast and a Force 12 C3ss
antenna
> that is about 30 lbs.  The tower can be walked up hand over hand by myself
> without the ant, mast, and rotator, but we tried with 4 large people and
> couldn't get it past about 30 degrees.  No more leverage at our height.
Is
> it possible and wise to attatch a line at the 30' level, route it above
the
> peak of a roof and use a vehicle to pull it up?  Any thoughts or
> suggestioins would be most helpful.
> Thanks,
> Alan Young
> _______________________________________________
>
> See: http://www.mscomputer.com  for "Self Supporting Towers", "Wireless
> Weather Stations", and lot's more.  Call Toll Free, 1-800-333-9041 with
any
> questions and ask for Sherman, W2FLA.
>
> _______________________________________________
> TowerTalk mailing list
> TowerTalk@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 21:59:58 -0400
> From: GEORGE PRITCHARD <ab2kc@optonline.net>
> To: n8de@thepoint.net, Alan Young <younga@worldnet.att.net>
> Cc: TowerTalk@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Erecting a 40' Universal tilt base tower
> Message-ID: <000f01c31b4e$db996c90$e181b818@Angie>
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> Reply-To: GEORGE PRITCHARD <ab2kc@optonline.net>
> Message: 11
>
> It sounds like the tower is close to the house. When I did my tower, I
used
> a very heavy duty pully set up on a heavy duty fixture on the peak of the
> roof. Pulling on the rope on the other side of the house transferred some
> the tower weight to the roof peak. Even with 4 big guys pushing up, and
two
> guys on the opposite rope... it was damn heavy with no antennas on it.  If
> it's really heavy, you can use a very very slow moving vehicle, while the
> driver listens CAREFULLY on a radio for directions. I was concerned that
the
> rope may slip and the 4 guys at the tower would be harmed trying to hold
it.
> Well. once the tower had passed a cirtian point (about 80+ degrees)... it
> wanted to fall towards the house, so be prepared to apply force in the
> opposite diection to slow it down and stop it. If you use a vehicle...the
> driver must be told to stop, and the rope slacked a bit as the tower guys
> slowly bring the tower into position (little effort at this point) so you
> can put the bolts through the holes. Then you will breath again! If it's
> really heavy, I would use a vehicle. Rig up the fixture on the roof very
> well so it does not move. I also tied it to trees that are very close to
the
> house... just in case something caused movement side to side. Mine went up
> in ten minutes, but took many hours to prepare the fixtures and go over
the
> plan with the "hired help". No beer till after your done!
> George AB2KC
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Don Havlicek" <n8de@thepoint.net>
> To: "Alan Young" <younga@worldnet.att.net>
> Cc: <TowerTalk@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 9:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Erecting a 40' Universal tilt base tower
>
>
> > Alan,
> > Yes to your question .. it's easy to do that way  ![speaking from
> > experience with lifting a 70' tower with three monobanders at the top
> > doing just what you say]
> > Don
> > N8DE
> >
> > Alan Young wrote:
> > > I am in need of some ideas on raising a tilt over base, 40 Universal
> tower.  It is aluminum, with a rotator, 20 lb 9 ft. mast and a Force 12
C3ss
>  antenna that is about 30 lbs.  The tower can be walked up hand over hand
by
> myself without the ant, mast, and rotator, but we tried with 4 large
people
> and couldn't get it past about 30 degrees.  No more leverage at our
height.
> Is it possible and wise to attatch a line at the 30' level, route it above
> the peak of a roof and use a vehicle to pull it up?  Any thoughts or
> suggestioins would be most helpful.
> > > Thanks,
> > > Alan Young
> > > _______________________________________________
> > >
> > > See: http://www.mscomputer.com  for "Self Supporting Towers",
"Wireless
> Weather Stations", and lot's more.  Call Toll Free, 1-800-333-9041 with
any
> questions and ask for Sherman, W2FLA.
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > TowerTalk mailing list
> > > TowerTalk@contesting.com
> > > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk
> > >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> > See: http://www.mscomputer.com  for "Self Supporting Towers", "Wireless
> Weather Stations", and lot's more.  Call Toll Free, 1-800-333-9041 with
any
> questions and ask for Sherman, W2FLA.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > TowerTalk mailing list
> > TowerTalk@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk
>
> ------------------------------
>
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