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RE : [TowerTalk] Pulling wire

To: "'Terry Gerdes'" <terry@ab5k.net>, <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: RE : [TowerTalk] Pulling wire
From: "hermans" <on4kj@skynet.be>
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:22:18 -0000
List-post: <mailto:towertalk@contesting.com>
Terry,

In my opinion if you dont obstruct  both ends, wich isn't necessary when
its clear of the drop, then the circulating air will dry out the pipe
inside.
At this very moment with abt 20°c inside and near 5° c outside sure the
fog wont settle inside . That?s why Marc put the ends in a cabinet....
isn'it Marc. So no holes in the pipe underground, afraid you will suck
water trough the holes in a wet environment. 

Jos on4kj
 

-----Message d'origine-----
De?: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] De la part de Terry Gerdes
Envoyé?: jeudi 23 décembre 2004 21:02
À?: towertalk@contesting.com
Objet?: Re: [TowerTalk] Pulling wire

What are the thoughts pertaining to condensation in the pvc pipe.  Do
you
drill holes in the pvc pipe at the low points or just let the cables set
in
water?  Thanks

Terry - AB5K


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marc Wullaert" <marc.wullaert3@pandora.be>
To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Pulling wire


> My experience:
>
> Several years a go I put a big plastic pipe (8inch dia) under the
house to
> the towers.
> There are several coax'es 7/8 in them ,and a lot of controlwires.Those
pipes
> came out at
> the towers and coax'es en control wires (rotor -switching) moving up
at
> thetower.
> 2 years ago I chanced the whole antenna system and placed kabinets at
each
> tower.
> When I toke all the cabels out the pipes most off controlwires where
> strangled around coax
> and others wires.A lot off work.
> I have now taped 2 control wires at 1 coax and vica versa.Yes I had
some
> spare coax and controlwires
> so putt it  all in.I'f something go wrong a have another control
cable.And
> if something wrong with a
> coax (I dont think for the first 20years) I can easely checked with
the
> labels and remove them easely.
>
> for pull rope I use a small SS cable.Making a plan off all wires and
label
> them.Very easy even in the dark
> O yes "I have lights in the cabinets"
> marc on4ma
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <K4BEV@aol.com>
> To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 7:17 PM
> Subject: [TowerTalk] Pulling wire
>
>
> > Some FB ideas have been presented in the "Pull rope in PVC" thread.
> >
> > Also, ALWAYS:
> > Pull AT LEAST 10% spares for control wires and coaxial cables.
> > Go up AT LEAST one size larger conduit than needed. There are tables
> > indicating how much of what will fit in which size of conduit.
> > Label everything at both ends.
> > Make a drawing, or (better) take a picture of the run before its
covered,
> if
> > buried.
> > Use stranded THHN or similar (has a slick jacket) for control wires.
MTW
> > (soft jacket) is great for making bends in a panel, but NO fun to
pull
> through
> > anything.
> > One word -- Wire Lube! I like Ideal Yellow 77 - Works great, lasts a
long
> > time, won't hurt the insulation.
> > Pull more out than needed at the end of the run and carefully
inspect
> every
> > wire. If ANY are roughed up pull the entire run back out and find
the
> problem.
> > This is almost never a problem with plastic pipe, but a burr missed
when
> > cutting steel conduit can create real problems later.
> > 90 degree fittings are OK for control wire (no more that 360 deg
total)
,
> but
> > use sweeps if coax is involved.
> >
> > If you tape your wires together before a pull - Remove ALL tape
before
it
> > enters the conduit.
> > If you ever need to remove a wire, or use one as a pull, you won't
be
able
> to
> > if the wires are taped together.
> >
> > Have fun,
> > Don - K4BEV
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> >
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with
any
> questions and ask for Sherman, W2FLA.
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