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From: | "Jerry Keller - K3BZ" <k3bz@arrl.net> |
Date: | Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:03:43 -0500 |
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I've had a good experience with my Heights freestanding tilt-over aluminum tower, but my experience
is probably not directly comparable with that of Bob N5KF, as my tower is only 40 feet, plus the 5'
tilt-over base. I've had no problems at all with the tower or with it supporting a SteppIR 3L. It
has shims between the leg tubes and the feet that mount to the upper hinge of the tilt-over fixture,
but there isn't any clanging. I think the clanging is probably (as Bob hints) related to the 72'
length of his tower and doesn't manifest itself in shorter towers. I did notice slight elongation of some of the bolt holes where the 8' sections join, but drilling additional holes for a third set of bolts took care of things nicely. My tower doesn't rise above the surrounding trees. I cut a few to make more turning room (which my XYL didn't like at all, but I explained to her that I cut the grass and trees are the same as grass only bigger) and the SteppIR has been simply fantastic at 45 feet. 73, Jerry K3BZ ----- Original Message ----- From: <Robert_Redoutey@Dell.com> To: <towertalk@contesting.com> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 8:28 AM Subject: [TowerTalk] RE:Tower Conundrum Alan, I have some good and some bad experiences as far as Heights Towers. I have used this forum last year in trying to deal with my issues. For those who don't remember, I will discuss those issues. I spent over $4,000 (plus cement and labor expenses)on a 72' tilt over and its has been a nightmare. Before it was even all way up it made "clanging" sounds. Since it was not fully tightened at the base, it was determined that that "may be" the issue. I completed the tower, put the antenna on, and the clanging got worse. This was about a year ago. After months of back and forth with Drake we came up with some conclusions: There are issues with a certain size of tower leg that he uses and how it couples to the next section. If you use the same diameter of tower leg for a number of "joints", there will be movement. The reason is that the collar that goes between the joints is larger than the legs themselves. Not just a small fraction, but a noticeable gap. For one or two joints like this, he said he has not seen a problem, but for a number of joints like I have, it has been determined to be a problem. He did drive out from Florida to Texas last May and replaced the bottom 4 sections. In the process we added a fair amount of grease to each joint. This all seemed to help and the clanging was much less noticeable. Unfortunately, over time and raising and lowering the tower a couple of times, the grease has been less effective and the noise is back, maybe not as bad as originally, but still quite disturbing. His only other suggestion has been to apply shims to fill in the gaps on each leg of the tower, at each of the 4 joints, but with no guarantee of success. The shims are narrow little pieces of metal which don't really stay in place very well, especially on the under side of the collars. Drake has told me that the collar material does not come in the correct size to "match" the legs. That's the bottom line. My question, why sell a tower where the leg joints will not fit properly. He has many models whose joints do not couple the way this one does. I am sure those work very well. As to the tower, it's very rugged, well made. No complaints there. The tilt-over mechanism works fine. But it is not climbable, since it wiggles at the joints. Yes, there are 6 bolts in each of the 3 legs at each lower joint, so I don't think its going anywhere, but for anybody that has climbed a tower, it's not a comfortable feel. I am sure he has a fine product and the company has been around quite a while and through quite a bit. Drake himself is a great gentleman. But lets look at a bottom line, I have a 72' (rated at 25 sf) tilt-over tower that "clangs" with the slightest wind, and has issues with the joints. Currently I have about 10 sf of antenna on it, and wouldn't ever think of going to the "rated" 25 sf. If I were to do it again, I would find a different product. I don't have the money any longer to replace this one. I like aluminum towers, and have had many over my 40 years as a ham, but not this model from this company. I do hope this reads "politically correct", as my intent is to inform and not "bash" anybody. Thanks for listening, Bob Redoutey - N5KF Regulatory Test Dell Inc. 512-728-0011 (Office) www.n5kf.com
I would recommend Heights Towers. I recently purchased and installed a 45 ft free standing crank-up/fold-over Heights Tower. I needed 90 MPH wind calcs in order to get my Bldg permit and Drake at Heights got them to me in about a weeks time. I had many questions during the period of drilling my hole in the ground for the base and the final adjustment of the fold over arms adjustment. I had a local contractor who installs Cel phone towers for a living help me with the concrete work and setting up the tower as well as the city bldg inspector both commenting on the quality of the tower and the workmanship putting it together. Latest notable contacts with this tower and a measly MA5B mini-beam were both VU4RBI and VU4NRO on Andaman Island on 20 mtrs before the tsunami hit. Check them out at: www.heightstowers.com 73 & GL _______________________________________________ See: http://www.mscomputer.com for "Self Supporting Towers", "Wireless Weather Stations", and lot's more. Call Toll Free, 1-800-333-9041 with any questions and ask for Sherman, W2FLA. _______________________________________________ TowerTalk mailing list TowerTalk@contesting.com http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk _______________________________________________ See: http://www.mscomputer.com for "Self Supporting Towers", "Wireless Weather Stations", and lot's more. Call Toll Free, 1-800-333-9041 with any questions and ask for Sherman, W2FLA. _______________________________________________ TowerTalk mailing list TowerTalk@contesting.com http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk |
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