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> That means I could go up 600 ft if I wanted to! I'm already on top of a
> ridge at 8300 feet overlooking the front range of Colorado....that is
> likely
> a downside issue because of the high winds. So, I'm going up only 120'.
>
Just use larger guy lines! <:-))
40 minutes? You close to Boulder?
My daughter is on the second range SW of Boulder.
Roger Halstead (K8RI and ARRL 40 year Life Member)
N833R - World's oldest Debonair CD-2
www.rogerhalstead.com
> I can't justify living in crowded cities just to be close to work and the
> night life.
>
> W0RTT....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Steve Katz
> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 2:34 PM
> To: 'Kelly Johnson'; towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] [BULK] - Re: [BULK] - Re: [BULK] - Re: [BULK] - R
> e:[BULK] - R e: Tower Restrictions
>
> Kelly, I appreciate what you're saying. I still contend you can buy a
> nice,
> modern home free of deed restrictions *almost* anywhere, if you know where
> to look -- including Silicon Valley.
>
> As for never having been to Silicon Valley, home to the "dot gones,"
> that's
> sure not true. I've had an office in Mountain View for 9 years, and visit
> there all the time. My associates there live everwhere from Burlingame
> down
> to Los Gatos, and over to Fremont, and up to Pleasanton. That's a bit
> beyond the Valley, but as I'm sure you know, the Valley has been
> artificially extended to pretty much include these places, as it's
> "boomed."
>
>>From what I've found, and I've spent a lot of time investigating the real
> estate in the area, probably the best trick in the book is to consult with
> local long-time residents who are also active hams and *really* know
> everything about everywhere. When I thought nothing around Los Gatos
> allowed amateur towers, John N6JL stepped in to immediately correct that
> misconception, pointing out his 70' freestanding, telescoping tower on his
> lot there, in the hills (at the time).
>
> I do agree, though, that it's very likely anyone wishing to buy a home
> free
> of deed restrictions in that and many areas will likely pay a premium for
> same; further reinforcing my contention that covenant-free properties are
> not only worth more today, but they'll appreciate faster as well. The
> only
> problem for new homeowners, as you aptly point out, is the initial "buy
> in."
> -WB2WIK/6
>
>
>
>
> Yes and no. Sure, there are CC&R free areas in most older cities but
> the problem is that unless you are willing to buy a "fixer upper" in
> an old part of town and spend lots of money bringing it up to "modern
> standards" it's not affordable for most people. As an example, my zip
> code has a median home price now of $680k. What do you get for your
> $680k? Well, on my street it will get you a 2bd/1ba 1100 sq. ft. 65
> year old fixer upper on a 10,000 sq. ft lot. It will likely have
> hardwood floor with vinyl in the kitchen/bathrooms, outdated
> appliances, no air conditioning, minimal insulation, and a roof that
> needs work. For about $250/sq. ft you can remodel and bring it beyond
> the 1950's into the 21st century with air conditioning, granite
> countertops, new appliances, and maybe another bedroom and/or
> bathroom. When you're all done you may wind up with a quaint, full of
> character 1600 sq. ft house for about $900k. Compare that to the
> tract homes being sold about 2 miles away where you get a brand new
> 2000 sq. ft home on a 4000 sq. ft lot in an HOA controlled development
> for about $600k. It cost you $300k more for that big lot and
> old-style (albeit filled with more character) home in a CC&R free part
> of town. Some people can afford it...most can't. Most (esp. first
> time home buyers and people under 40) are forced by economics into the
> tract home. BTW, $900k in this neighborhood is on the LOW end for
> major remodels. A large number of remodels in this part of town
> involve tearing down an existing 1000 sq. foot home on 1/4 acre and
> replacing it with a 4000 sq. ft McMansion which ends up selling for 2
> mln when its done.
>
> Yes, in theory, you can find CC&R free properties, but the fact is
> that it will cost you considerably more for considerably less in those
> "desirable" parts of town. In other words, most hams are priced out
> of those areas unless they are married to an XYL that doesn't mind
> small, old, fixer uppers :-)
>
> Anyone that says "you can always find suitable CC&R free properties"
> has never been to Silicon Valley, Ca. The housing boom in Silicon
> Valley started in the early 70's (when anti-antenna CC&Rs and HOAs)
> really came into vogue. Finding a CC&R/HOA free home in this area
> requires >= 1mln net worth OR a willingness to live in a "substandard"
> home. For those of us that aren't multi-millionaires the choice is a
> "substandard" home OR antenna restrictions. I've chosen the
> "substandard" home, but my XYL isn't always happy with that choice :-)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 12:52:48 -0800, Steve Katz <stevek@jmr.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Don't kid yourself. So-called "rich" neighborhoods also have covenants
>> enforced by an association. Yes, even the "rich" society has a
>> smattering
>> of residents that feel compelled to force their standards upon others. I
>> know this because of experience related by my daughter who lives in an
>> exclusive residential area affordable only by multi-millionaires.
>>
>> Keith
>>
>> ::They can, but they don't need to. There are lots of exclusive
> residential
>> areas populated entirely by multimillionaires that are completely
>> covenant-free, everywhere, if one chooses to look for one. Lots of
>> variables, but here in the L.A. area, most of the high-priced "exclusive"
>> communities are covenant-free. Some aren't. If one doesn't like being
>> restricted, one needn't be. -WB2WIK/6
>> _______________________________________________
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