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Re: [TowerTalk] Belt Slippage on LM-470 Towers

To: paul@w8aef.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Belt Slippage on LM-470 Towers
From: Joe Giacobello <k2xx@swva.net>
Reply-to: k2xx@swva.net
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 12:30:10 -0500
List-post: <mailto:towertalk@contesting.com>
Well, I changed the belt this morning to one 1/2" shorter.  Frankly, it 
still slipped until I removed the residue remaining from the Belt 
Dressing on both pulleys with alcohol.  The temperature was about 25F, 
and I was able to fully extend the tower without any problems.

I seem to be getting the opposite effect with the Belt Dressing.  Maybe 
I just put too much on.  I can't explain it otherwise.

73 and thanks for all your help.

Joe

paul@w8aef.com wrote:

>It could also be that the belt is too narrow and rides in the bottom of the 
>pulleys.  The belt dressing is a good idea.  Even if it slips when first 
>applied it will (should) reduce slippage in the future.
>
>There doesn't seem to be a brand name on my belt.  There are two sets of 
>numbers on it: 321 E 12 and 43517.  I think the 43517 is the manufacturers 
>part number.  This is a belt that I purchased to replace the worn belt that 
>came with the tower.  Sorry, can't remember where I obtained it, maybe an auto 
>parts store.  This belt also has 'teeth', for lack of a better word.  It does 
>not have the same continuous cross-section, it has teeth.
>
>Also, the Tri-ex bill of materials calls for either a Dayco 4L410 or Gates 
>2410 belt.
>
>de Paul, W8AEF
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Joe Giacobello 
>  To: k0dan 
>  Cc: paul@w8aef.com ; Tower Talk ; k6ll@adelphia.net ; KJ6Y@aol.com ; 
> K9RB@bellsouth.net ; wa3gin@erols.com 
>  Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 7:27 PM
>  Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Belt Slippage on LM-470 Towers
>
>
>  Thanks, Paul, Dan, Skip, both Daves and Roger.
>
>  To answer several questions, I had recently changed to a new belt, applied 
> grease to the drum via the fitting and changed the gearbox oil.  Frankly, I 
> may have been a little lax about oiling the pulley bearings on one tower, but 
> I know I had done it recently on the other tower.  I really don't think the 
> issue is the pulleys or obstructions to the movement of sections.
>
>  Usually, I can get things to work properly by simply retightening the belt.  
> In fact, I got it running yesterday and while it was going up sprayed Belt 
> Dressing on the pulleys.  The slippage immediately began again.  I think that 
> Belt Dressing is more of a lubricant and seems to make the problem worse.  
> The can says it is for the elimination of squeaks.
>
>  The idea of reducing the belt size by a half inch makes a lot of sense.  In 
> the past I had blindly replaced the belts with the identical size that came 
> with the towers.  I bought a shorter belt yesterday and will try it out on 
> Friday.
>
>  Frankly, I had no idea that there was some kind of clutch mechanism 
> associated with the large pulley.  I knew that the mounting hardware was 
> unusual, but that information was a revelation.  I'll pay more attention to 
> it in the future.
>
>  I'll let you know how the shorter belt works tomorrow.
>
>  73, Joe
>
>
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