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Re: [TowerTalk] 40 Meter Dipole Question

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] 40 Meter Dipole Question
From: "Robert Chudek" <k0rc@pclink.com>
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 00:22:25 -0600
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Dave,

The roof as you describe it should be pretty transparent to RF, unless the 
insulation has a metalized skin on one side or both. Have you tested the vswr 
with your transmitter and a swr meter? 

With such a good (high) antenna position there may be a local broadcast or 
other RF source that is swamping your analyzer. My analyzer was useless near 
downtown Minneapolis in a similar high location. In my case it was high power 
FM stations in line of sight, about a half mile away.

My analyzer also was useless near a 15 kW AM broadcast station in a suburb of 
St Paul.

My first experience with RF swamping made me think there was an intermittent 
with my analyzer. This was at a Field Day event where I finally correlated the 
CW operation with the "intermittent" in the analyzer! When they transmitted, 
the analyzer went berserk!

73 de Bob - K0RC


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Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 20:28:08 -0500
From: "WA3GIN in Alex. City, VA" <wa3gin@erols.com>
Subject: [TowerTalk] 40 Meter Dipole Question
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Question:

Installed a ? wave 40 meter dipole 10ft above the penthouse roof which
is 410ft above sea level and 210ft above average terrain. The dipole is
almost perfectly horizontal.  

We get a dip on the antenna analyzer around 7Mhz but the SWR is 7.5:1 at
the dip and just goes up from there.  I presume there is something going
on with the roof which is concrete covered with 4? Styrofoam and a layer
of creek stones.  

Thinking about installing a lumped inductance across the feed-point and
using the center conductor of the 50 ohm coax to tap the coil where we
find a 1.1:1 SWR.

Looking for other ideas and suggestions as to how best to match the
input impedance.

73,
dave
wa3gin
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