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Re: [TowerTalk] Top-Loading Verticals

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Top-Loading Verticals
From: K4SAV <RadioIR@charter.net>
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 21:26:48 -0500
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The thread isn't the only thing that has gotten convoluted.  I didn't 
write that, N3OX did.

Jerry, K4SAV

Jim Brown wrote:

>This thread has gotten a bit convoluted, so I'm changing the subject 
>to reflect the content. 
>
>K4SAV wrote:
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>>A small amount of lengthening would put the current max in the middle
>>of the vertical section, but enough to get you to 50 ohms gets a lot
>>of current flowing in the horizontal section.  
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>
>That depends on how tall the vertical section is. It also depends on 
>how much lengthening is required to hit 50 ohms resistance, which 
>depends the loss in the circuit -- the wire and the radial system. My 
>vertical section is 86 ft, with horizontal legs on the order of 60 ft 
>(the ground slopes under this antenna, so my top loading is 
>asymetrical). For a base current of 1A, the current at the top of the 
>vertical section is 1.07A and the current maxima  (1.17A) is at 
>roughly 50 ft. So in my vertical, the current in each of the 
>horizontal wires is just slightly half of the base current. I have 60 
>radials, average length about 80 ft. 
>
>NEC shows a very small effect on field strength or vertical pattern as 
>a result of the lengthening. As I see it, the principal advantage is 
>simplicity of tuning and easy matching to 50 ohm coax. 
>
>As I recall, the cap in my system is about 330pF. This value is NOT 
>difficult to obtain -- 10-15 ft or so of coax would do it, and would 
>certainly handle the voltage. I'm using some 3kV ceramic discs from a 
>local electronics surplus store. I've determined experimentally that 
>their loss is quite low -- I put 1.5kW into the antenna for a while 
>and then go out and feel them to see if they've gotten hot. You can't 
>use just any caps here, of course, and some I tried got quite hot. 
>
>To summarize: In my antenna, at least, the current maxima has been 
>moved up about 50 ft from the feedpoint, current in the vertical 
>section is quite uniform, varying by less than 2 dB, there is a slight 
>improvement in the vertical pattern, and a slight increase in computed 
>field strength. It matches 50 ohm coax, doesn't require a tuner 
>between 1800 kHz and 1850 kHz, and is easily tuned by my Ten Tec 238 
>above 1850. Yes, there is signficant current near the center of the 
>toploading wires, but they're #10, so loss is small. I would certainly 
>recommend this technique for antennas as short as 1/8 wavelength (70 
>ft on 160M), and wouldn't rule it out for shorter ones. 
>
>73,
>
>Jim Brown K9YC
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