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Re: [TowerTalk] Rebar Cage Question

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Rebar Cage Question
From: Donald Chester <k4kyv@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 21:25:02 +0000
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> I think the main thing to remember is that the purpose of the welding or 
> wire for that matter is to keep the rebar cage in tact until it has been 
> covered in concrete. Once the concrete cures, it makes NO difference. I 
> welded a few cages myself and if you can weld, this is no big deal. If 
> you cannot weld, buy a roll binding wire and get it over with.
> 
> Either way, as long as you cage can be kept in tact until you done the 
> pour, you are OK
 
> de KR5DX
 
That's pretty much my take on it.  I built mine almost 30 years ago, and tack 
welded the rebar together using a homebuilt arc welder.  I don't see how that 
would weaken the rebar, since it didn't thoroughly heat both the entire joined 
pieces to a glow in order to solidly weld across the entire diameter of the 
bar, but just enough to keep it together until the concrete was poured, much in 
the manner of spot welding.  I first tried wiring it together, but never could 
make it stable enough to my satisfaction.  

I have built reinforced concrete foundation piers under my house, where I 
didn't even bother to tie the rebar together at all, but simply submerged 
pieces of bar into the concrete, poured in some more, laid more rebar, and then 
finished filling in the hole or the form.  The rebar won't sink to the bottom 
in concrete the way it will in water, but will remain suspended exactly where 
you place it if it doesn't get bumped aside.  The main thing to watch out for 
is to make sure that all the  rebar is thoroughly covered with concrete.  You 
don't want any steel sticking out through the concrete in direct contact with 
the soil, since that may set up electrolysis and cause the steel to rust or 
corrode.  If that happens, the rusting rebar may actually expand enough to 
crack the concrete.

I don't plan to build any new towers any time soon.  I was curious about this 
as the result of an over-the-air discussion with another ham whose tower is 
still in the planning stage.  I told him that I tack welded mine together, but 
that some experts claim you should use wire.

I suspended my cages in the hole, using steel wire and a temporary supporting 
stucture while the concrete was being poured, paying close attention to the 
placement as the concrete went in.  Once the concrete was poured, I used wire 
cutters to clip off the support wires an inch or two below the surface of the 
concrete, to assure that all the steel was completely covered.

The tower is still up and giving good service after nearly 3 decades, so I must 
have done somethig right.

Don k4kyv
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