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Re: [TowerTalk] Palmdale CA: The rest of the story

To: "'WA3GIN'" <wa3gin@comcast.net>, "'Roger \(K8RI\)'" <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Palmdale CA: The rest of the story
From: "D.Calder" <towertalk@n4zkf.com>
Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 11:31:29 -0500
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Already have. Hope it helps. Listed times, dates, titles, names, etc.

I'm done.

73 Dave n4zkf


-----Original Message-----
From: WA3GIN [mailto:wa3gin@comcast.net] 
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 8:30 AM
To: D. Calder; 'Roger (K8RI)'
Cc: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Palmdale CA: The rest of the story

Good info...but preaching to the choir won't do much for the Palmdale 
community.  Send this camp fire stories to the Palmdale link, they'll make a

difference. Be sure to include your career title if you think it would make 
a difference, i.e. OEM director, ESF # 2 Lead, Cellular Operations Mgr., 
etc.

73,
dave
wa3gin

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "D. Calder" <towertalk@n4zkf.com>
To: "'Roger (K8RI)'" <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net>
Cc: <towertalk@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 7:37 AM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Palmdale CA: The rest of the story


>
> Exactly Roger. Being in Telecom as a Regional Ops manager for a wireless
> tower company for umpteen years, I hear this everyday
> from the public who knows what I do for a living. Even the smarter ones
> (they think they are) know about the 8 hour generator backup
> rule on cell sites and now think they will work no matter what. Just 
> because
> the FCC made them stick a generator at the site.
>
> Well, it's not staying up when the T1 backhaul between the sites go down 
> as
> happened here in Florida during the hurricanes. The
> generator didn't do much for that. Until ALL carriers have a microwave
> backhaul to rely on for redundancy, they need ham radio.
>
> Not to speak about the capacity to handle the traffic on cell systems. 
> Maybe
> the FCC's opening up the "white space" frequencies
> will spawn something new but I don't think so. THEY STILL NEED HAM RADIO.
> Our stuff works when others don't. I thank that our
> local Police and government realize that. We have our own room at the EOC.
>
> 73 Dave n4zkf
> Happy Holidays everyone.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Actually I think the city's approach represents one of the greatest 
> threats
> faced by amateur radio.  Most of the public, including those in all levels
> of government are of the mind set that with cell phones the emergency
> services aspect of amateur radio is just overblown until they actually see
> an emergency where the power is out and/or there is so much traffic they
> can't use their cell phones.  Only then does it become evident, at least 
> for
> those who can add 2 and 2, that the Amateur Radio Service, really is a
> service.
>
> Until then those at the city level (and sometimes state) know with 
> certainty
> they can regulate any  thing that goes on within or even above their 
> borders
> regardless of who tells them they can't. Many are quite willing to push it
> through expensive court procedures as they figure the average citizen
> doesn't have the will or resources to pursue it to the point where the 
> city
> will be forced to comply.
>
> One redeeming feature in this case is them trying to preempt, or rather
> usurp  the FCC's jealously guarded territory. I think that will get the
> FCC's attention more than any one of us could normally manage.
>
> Now it the ham could just get compensation for time, stress, and money 
> spent
> from both the city and those who complained. <:-))
>
> 73
>
> Roger (K8RI)
>
>
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