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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] sloping dipole arrays
From: "Roger (K8RI)" <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net>
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 00:37:33 -0400
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Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
> A common mode choke does not solve the issues of grounding the 
> shields of the coax in the K1WA design.  The K1WA design relies 
> on the 3/8 wave open coax acting like an inductor to tune the 
> unused slopers as reflectors.  Unfortunately, when the shield 
> is connected to ground, the ground connection adds capacitance 
> in parallel with the inductance and DETUNES the reflector.  
>
> I know of no commercial switch that opens both sides of the coax 
> and floats the shields.  Someone building an antenna that uses 
> this principle needs to: 1 )build their own switch, 2) work with  
> a length of feedline (5/8 wave ?) that will yield the proper XL 
> when SHORTED or 3) use a half wave of feedline and coils.  In 
> all three case you will still want an effective common mode choke 
> at the feedpoint. 
>
>   
And around here you want every line grounded when not in use.

73

Roger (K8RI)
> 73, 
>
>    ... Joe, W4TV 
>    
>
>
>
>   
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com 
>> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Roger (K8RI)
>> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 8:37 PM
>> To: jim Jarvis
>> Cc: k4fj@k4fj.com; towertalk@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] sloping dipole arrays
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> jim Jarvis wrote:
>>     
>>> I have seen K1WA's excellent article in the Antenna 
>>>       
>> Handbook for years 
>>     
>>> regarding sloping half-wave dipole arrays.  His design 
>>>       
>> switches both 
>>     
>>> the center conductor and braid for each feedline.
>>>
>>> Is it really important to switch the braid?
>>> 73, Steve, K4FJ
>>> -0-
>>>
>>> YES.
>>>
>>> The K8UR sloper array design, and the variants upon that, require
>>> that the
>>> reflectors not be connected to the driven element.   If you use a  
>>> switch which
>>> ties all shields together,  you'll have half of your 
>>>       
>> reflectors and  
>>     
>>> your driven element
>>> fed together.   
>>>       
>> That is why you install a choke/current balun on the feedline 
>> the proper 
>> distance from the antenna.  Then the shields can remain at DC ground 
>> (for safety)
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Roger (K8RI)
>>     
>>>  God knows what pattern will result.   Or, knowing  
>>> this audience,
>>> only an adept NEC user with a lot of time will know what the
>>> resulting pattern
>>> will be.
>>>
>>> The technique of feeding each dipole via 3/8 lambda coax from the 
>>> switch is a particularly neat way to assure that the 
>>>       
>> undriven elements
>>     
>>> function as
>>> reflectors.
>>>
>>> N2EA
>>>
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