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Re: [TowerTalk] TV Channels 2-6 Post Transition

To: "'J. Gordon Beattie, Jr., W2TTT'" <w2ttt@att.net>, <donmar1234@aol.com>, <towertalk@contesting.com>, <50mhz@mailman.qth.net>, <6meter@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] TV Channels 2-6 Post Transition
From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>
Reply-to: lists@subich.com
Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 06:24:51 -0400
List-post: <towertalk@contesting.com">mailto:towertalk@contesting.com>
Channel 6 is 80-88 MHz - not 70 MHz.  

70 t0 74 MHz is allocated to non-broadcast use in the US. 
It is between TV channels 4 and 5 and would not be freed 
by the reduction of low band VHF stations following the 
DTV transition. 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com 
> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of J. 
> Gordon Beattie, Jr., W2TTT
> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 11:51 PM
> To: donmar1234@aol.com; towertalk@contesting.com; 
> microwave@lists.valinet.com; 50mhz@mailman.qth.net; 
> 6meter@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: W2TTT@arrl.net
> Subject: [TowerTalk] TV Channels 2-6 Post Transition
> 
> 
> Hi Folks!
> There are only two stations using channel 6 after the June cutover.  
> Why are we not asking for a 4m band allocation, even with 
> restrictions? Does anyone know the process of petitioning the 
> FCC? In other countries there is a 70.0-70.5 allocation and 
> while participation is small, more countries have made 
> allocations in the last decade and there is activity. Anyone 
> want to collaborate on a petition?
> 
> Thanks & 73,
> Gordon Beattie, W2TTT
> 201.314.6964
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com 
> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of 
> donmar1234@aol.com
> Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 2:54 AM
> To: towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: [TowerTalk] TV Channels 2-6 Post Transition
> 
> There are?20?Full Power TV stations listed for channels 2-6 
> post transition and many Low Power TV stations. You can 
> download the list from the FCC here:? www.dtv.gov?? lower rhs 
> of the page.
> 
> 73,
> Don
> KW7R
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 16:37:34 -0400
> From: "Roger (K8RI)" <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] New TV antennas
> To: Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
> Cc: Tower Talk List <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <4A0F240E.9080803@tm.net>
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> 
> Jim Brown wrote:
> > On Sat, 16 May 2009 04:01:22 -0400, Roger (K8RI) wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> Even here in Michigan we will have at least two active digital 
> >> stations
> >> on Ch 2.  Nation wide I believe there will be on the order 
> of 20-30. 
> >>     
> >
> > That is not accurate. Most broadcasters are abondoning Ch 
> 2-6 channels
> >   
> That map is quite different from the FCC channel listing I looked at 
> about a month ago. Although they do have channel 2 showing up in the 
> Kalamazoo area.
> 
> There was a table showing present, or rather pre-change date channels 
> before they changed the date and the  projected channels. That to was 
> quite different than what I have seen on the FCC page.
> 
> They also had a Saginaw station with is currently about 12 miles from 
> me, *currently* located in Badax which is way over in the thumb.
> > because, during the first years of DTV, they learned that 
> the impulse
> noise 
> > in this frequency range seriously degrades DTV performance.
> That used to be a problem but I doubt it is much of a one at present 
> except maybe in Chicago.  The big problem is propagation 
> which could be 
> a big problem with digital.
> 
> 
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