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Re: [TowerTalk] Divining rods

To: "Mike Fatchett W0MU" <w0mu@w0mu.com>, <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Divining rods
From: "Chuck" <w5pr@swbell.net>
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 19:52:38 -0500
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You are lucky to have observed this.

Chuck W5PR

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Fatchett W0MU" <w0mu@w0mu.com>
To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Divining rods


>I know a guy here in Montana that drilled a well, went over 500 ft got
> next to no water.  After tiring of hauling water for a few years he
> calls out an Old Dowser, who comes highly recommended, and the dowser
> finds a spot about 20 ft away from the well.  They drilled and hit water
> at 87ft 10 gallons per minute.
>
> Just luck?  I don't think so.
>
> W0MU
>
> On 8/31/2010 2:44 PM, knormoyle@surfnetusa.com wrote:
>>
>> In all of these posts, there's an implicit claim that the location of the 
>> desired object is fully random.
>> It's not, right?
>>
>> For instance, in the pvc case below, the installer has probably seen the 
>> full range of possible locations from similar houses in
>> the area? I'm assuming it's the main water line, and there are no visible 
>> outside shutoff valves.
>>
>> Obviously if there are visible shutoff valves either in the lawn or on 
>> the house, it's almost trivial.
>>
>> Before describing the amazing solution, doesn't there need to be a better 
>> explanation of why the target was fully random?
>>
>> And on the cable location problem: I don't get it. All our cables are 
>> copper. How come people can't inject a signal of some sort
>> and detect it themselves? I mean, isn't this trivial compared to other 
>> stuff we discuss? Were people talking about some kind of
>> cable that they couldn't inject a signal on? (can't you inject on the 
>> coax ground braid?)
>>
>> I would think it would be easy to detect something of sufficient 
>> strength, down to 18" or so (that's what chaser wires do?)
>>
>>
>> ------- Original Message -------
>>  From    : Mickey Baker[mailto:fishflorida@gmail.com]
>> Sent    : 8/31/2010 12:54:28 PM
>> To      : k4bg@planters.net
>> Cc      : TowerTalk@contesting.com
>> Subject : RE: Re: [TowerTalk] Divining rods
>>
>>   No matter the claims of many logical thinking, well meaning people on
>> this list, there has evidently never ever been any scientific evidence
>> that this works. Sorry, I suspect the physicists here aren't going to
>> be much help. Known science doesn't explain everything.
>>
>> For more:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dowsing
>>
>> 73,
>> Mickey
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Bob Good<k4bg@planters.net>  wrote:
>>> Gents,  I too am a bit of a skeptic BUT last month in my front yard the 
>>> contractor burying Fiber showed up to mark existing
>> lines.  I was totally taken back when he breaks out two steel rods to 
>> locate my pvc water line.  He chose this method over
>> anything technical.  The rods swung and he pointed to the spot on the 
>> ground and the spade hit its mark about 10 inches down, the
>> water line.  Had I not witnessed this I would have put it in the category 
>> of the moon phases determining how much dirt it takes to
>> refill a hole.  Okay, it's been around for ages.  Now why doesn't someone 
>> tell us how it works?  Is this another area 51?  Physics
>> profs, Please step up to the plate.  It's your turn, yes?  Bob K4BG
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