We have some commercial towers in the area of the final approach to one of
the runways here in Rochester. As I heard one pilot say "run into one of
those guys on a foggy night and you could ruin the whole trip".
Gene / W2LU
----- Original Message -----
From: "Al Kozakiewicz" <akozak@hourglass.com>
To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 12:34 AM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] FAA & Private Airstrips
> My very limited flight instruction was long ago and never put to use. I
> seem to recall that the downwind and base legs were no exception to
> minimum clearances, but I also recall that I was a great looking dude in
> those days and I doubt that was accurate either...
>
> My sense is that a ham would have to be VERY close to an airport to be
> denied the ability to erect a typical tower. As an example, WTRY is close
> to the Albany County NY airport and its towers (200-300 feet based on the
> illumination) are either in, or practically so, the approach/departure to
> runway 1.
>
> At any rate, like I said, when we wanted to put up 80 foot lighting
> towers, the town wanted an opinion from the FAA and we got an answer in a
> couple of weeks.
>
> Al
> AB2ZY
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of K8RI
> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 12:10 AM
> To: towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] FAA & Private Airstrips
>
> On 12/29/2011 8:25 PM, Al Kozakiewicz wrote:
>> The FAA does render an opinion on these matters pretty quickly. The
>> youth football organization I was an officer of a few years back wanted
>> to erect lights on a field which literally overlooked the Schenectady
>> County airport. There was no adverse finding.
>>
>> IIRC, aircraft are required to maintain a clearance of 500 feet below. A
>> runway glidepath is an obvious exception.
>
> So is being within 1.5 Nautical miles and practically under the
> pattern. 500 feet is the minimum altitude in sparsely settled areas,
> but the clearance to people and buildings is much greater. I do not have
> the AIM (Airman's Information manual) handy so I can't look it up, but
> it's not applicable to aircraft landing or taking off. So at less than 1.5
> miles and pretty much under the pattern they could be almost any altitude.
>
> 73
>
> Roger (K8RI) www.rogerhalstead.com
>>
>> FAR Part 77 covers the subject of navigation obstructions. Here is a
>> good Powerpoint tutorial:
>> http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/NR/rdonlyres/F2C1829F-7969-4A47-ADCC-64C6B6320
>> BA0/0/FAR_Part77.pdf
>>
>> Al
>> AB2ZY
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
>> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of William Hein
>> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 7:57 PM
>> To: towertalk@contesting.com
>> Subject: [TowerTalk] FAA& Private Airstrips
>>
>> My family and I recently moved to a wonderful house in beautiful Glade
>> Park CO (on the other side of Colorado National Monument from Grand
>> Junction. The house itself is an ultra-energy efficient Earthship
>> (Google "Glade Park Earthship" for more info). We have 35 rural acres of
>> land around our house in a low population density rural area. All in all
>> it's going to be a great place for ham radio.
>>
>> I've had stations in Malibu CA (as KC6EDP and AA6TT), Tiffany CO (as
>> AA6TT/0) and Topsham VT (AA6TT/1 and NT1Y) so I have some idea of what
>> works and what doesn't with regard to terrain, RF and the ionosphere. In
>> this regard my new location is superb with great 'shots' to EU and JA and
>> elsewhere and is confirmed by the success the other ham who lives up
>> here - Jerry K0DU - has in contests and pileups. I'm counting the days
>> until the ground thaws and tower construction can start in earnest - I've
>> been off the air due to a heavy workload for several years and I'm dying
>> to be back on the air.
>>
>> Since moving in I've noticed a small private plane passing overhead
>> fairly low (I'd say 100 feet or less) on a regular basis and landing
>> nearby. Checking Google Maps aerial photos I discovered a small grass
>> airstrip with a windsock - "Pinyon Airport" - on what I believe is
>> private land a little over 5 km SE of me (5.586 km per Google). The
>> runway is not pointed towards my house nevertheless seeing the plane
>> flyover directly overhead so low motivate me to Google FAA, airports and
>> towers. Here is a picture from Google Maps of my house with a line drawn
>> to the closest point on the airstrip:
>>
>> http://www.aa7xt.com/
>>
>> if you want to take a gander at my place on Google Maps yourself:
>>
>> 39.013949 N
>> -108.744371 W
>>
>> 479 South 16 1/2 Road
>> Glade Park CO 81523
>>
>> The FAA Website TOWAIR indicated that "Structure does not require
>> registration"after I plugged in my coordinates along with elevation
>> (6840-ft ASL approx.). There are no airports within 8 kilometers (5
>> miles) of the coordinates you provided." TOWAIR went on to caution
>> "TOWAIR's findings are not definitive or binding". Since "Pinyon
>> Airport" (a rather pretentious designation for a grass airstrip with a
>> windsock) is 5.5 km away I am guess it is either not registered with the
>> FAA or somehow doesn't count as a real airport.
>>
>> I have a 142-foot Big Bertha tower which I previously had installed in
>> Vermont which I intend to reinstall here along with at least one other
>> 100-ft + tower and a few smaller structures. For many reasons I'd hate
>> to see a airplane run into Bertha.
>>
>> So what should I do now? Contact the FAA for an opinion? Find out who
>> owns the airstrip and give them a verbal or written heads up on my tower
>> plans and also request they avoid flying low over my house? Something
>> else?
>>
>> 73
>> Bill
>>
>> -----
>> William Hein, AA7XT
>> (ex-AA4XT, NT1Y, AA6TT, KC6EDP)
>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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