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Re: [TowerTalk] VHF/UHF verticals wind load

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] VHF/UHF verticals wind load
From: Jim Lux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 09:01:11 -0700
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On 7/27/12 8:44 AM, Al Kozakiewicz wrote:
> If you know the diameter of the element you can make a first order 
> approximation.  Multiply the diameter (in inches) by the length (in inches) 
> for square inches, then divide by 144 for square feet.  That's actually worse 
> than the real wind load, as it assumes no streamlining benefit from tubular 
> elements.
>
> A 1 inch diameter element 17 feet long would calculate out to 1.4 sq feet of 
> wind load using the above. The real wind load is certainly less than that.
>
> Al


actually, the equivalent flat plate area for a cylinder can be greater 
than the cross sectional area, depending on the diameter of the cylinder 
and the wind speed. (that is, Cd can be >1)  This is particularly true 
for small diameter things like wires..  And for typical wind speeds and 
diameters, there's no appreciable streamlining.


Just for some real numbers:

for 60 mi/hr wind
1" diameter is Cd=1.01 and it doesn't change much from 0.5" to 3"

about 0.8 lb drag per linear foot for the 1" tube.

So for any practical sized tubing/radome in typical amateur wind 
velocities, the cross sectional area approximation is just fine.

But if you try and extrapolate to (much) faster wind speeds and thin 
wires (<0.1" diameter), you can get bitten.  (faster wind bites you two 
ways: drag goes up as the square, and the Cd also starts going up)


A bigger deal is aeolian vibrations with this sort of size/windspeed.
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