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From: Hans Hammarquist via TowerTalk <towertalk@contesting.com>
Reply-to: Hans Hammarquist <hanslg@aol.com>
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 18:23:09 -0500
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Roger,


Thanks for all your advice but I don't know how many of us have place for an 
even small bench-top drill presses (which, by the way. usually are useless for 
any serious work.) Also, a #2000 thing of any type is my shack would probably 
generate a hole in the floor and place itself on the bottom floor. :-(


Maybe you could offer the services for these kind of works.


Hans - N2JFS



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From: Roger (K8RI) on TT <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net>
To: Doug Renwick <ve5ra@sasktel.net>; towertalk <towertalk@contesting.com>
Sent: Sat, Jan 3, 2015 3:06 am
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Long shank U-Bolts


On 1/1/2015 8:56 PM, Doug Renwick wrote:

If he has access to a milling machine or knows a machinist, saddle 
clamps are easy to make, particularly if you can find some relatively 
small pieces of 1" plate and you can make the flat long enough for bolt 
holes instead of notches that require a backing plate.

I realize not everyone has a mill, but they are relatively cheap on the 
used market. About 40 years ago, the company I worked for purchased 2 of 
the same model used that I have, but theirs were strictly mechanical 
feeds except the quill.  They only had about 5 speeds available by 
changing the belt locations on the pulleys. They paid about $7900 each. 
I paid less than $3000 IIRC.   There isn't a better drill press made.   
The mill is RIGID and makes drilling "round" holes in precise locations 
with far less risk of bits hanging and flying parts.  They also make 
drilling holes on a circle relatively easy.  They also give you a reason 
to refresh that high school Trig.

A keyless chuck, a set of collets, a few end mills, a vise, and a little 
instruction  are about all you need.
Used mills with power feeds and digital readouts on the X, Y, and 
sometimes ZS axis for around $3000 while strictly mechanical with quil 
feed can be found between 1 and 2 thousand dollars. can be found.

A local high school had inexpensive classes on using Lathes, mills, 
shapers, surface grinders and welding.  It would be a good investment 
for the mechanically inclined even if you don't have any machine tools.  
You can learn a lot of possibilities. "Beware" of Fly Cutters!  The 
first time you see one in operation you will know why I say that.
Speaking of Fly Cutters.  They let you cut large holes with smooth 
edges, but cutting holes in thin materials with one takes special 
techniques and precautions.

One last precaution about working with metals.  When the shavings start 
peeling off never, ever try to brush them away with a hand even with 
leather gloves  Those things are sharp and if the bit, or what ever 
grabs them the same time you do, those shavings can removes finger(s) so 
quickly and cleanly you won't know it happened at the moment.    The 
mess is likely to alert you before the pain sets in.

Of course they also require maintenance. Mine is variable speed and the 
head needs rebuilding.  Some where, some one (not me) hung a cutter on 
low speed and sheared the key on the quill.  It works fine for what I do 
and the collets fit tight enough there's no slipping.   Oh! It weighs 
1800 to 2000# so make sure to set it where you want it when it's 
delivered and you have help.  I moved mine the length of the shop, then 
15 feet South, turned it around and backed it into place...alone and 
with no power tools.  I made a platform of 2 X 12s and used lengths of 
3/4 inch pipe as rollers and a railroad pry-bar for power. <:-))  So you 
know why I make that recommendation<LOL>.

73
\
Roger (K8RI)

> Using 2 saddle clamps as you describe is a good idea. I use that to
> support/clamp masts on top of a thrust bearing.
>
> Doug
>
> I wasn't born in Saskatchewan, but I got here as soon as I could.
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> On 12/30/2014 5:48 PM, Byron Tatum wrote:
>
> It might be a little pricy, but how about 2 saddle clamps used with a
> pair of straight bolts.  If worried about the bolts slipping out, they
> do make flat metal plates with 2 holes likely of a size you need to use
> for backing plates.
>
> 73
>
> Roger (K8RI)


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