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Re: [TowerTalk] Barker & Williamson Model AC - 1.8 - 30 Antenna

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Barker & Williamson Model AC - 1.8 - 30 Antenna
From: Bill via TowerTalk <towertalk@contesting.com>
Reply-to: Cqtestk4xs@aol.com
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 18:35:25 -0500
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Ah, Gotham.  Their aluminum quads were really uh,  interesting.  A friend 
got some good use out of the aluminum spreaders...he  made a 15 meter Yagi 
out of them.
 
K4XS/KH7XS  aka WV2ZPK (1962)
 
 
In a message dated 1/6/2016 11:32:01 P.M. Coordinated Universal Time,  
larryb.w1dyj@verizon.net writes:

In 1962,  as newly minted novice KN1VFX, I purchased a Gotham V80.  The ad 
said  it was the best thing to work the world on 80M CW, and radials were 
not  
"required."

You can't beat physics!  I've learned a lot  since...   (And I don't 
believe 
ads any more either.)

73  -- Larry -- W1DYJ




-----Original Message----- 
From:  Herbert Schoenbohm
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 7:41
To:  towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Barker & Williamson  Model AC - 1.8 - 30 Antenna





This B&W Antenna sort  of reminds me of the infamous MaxCom antenna feed
which gave a VSWR of less  that 2:1 from 1.8 to 30 Mhz sold for a while
in the 70's and 80's. After  scamming thousands of hams with these claims
the ARRL lab put the potted  matching unit into a X-ray device and
learned that it was nothing more that  a series of toaster elements
across the feed point inside or a dummy load  on the end of your coax
with some wire attached to it.  The B&W is  sort of a throw back of the
TF2D military antenna which at least did a bit  more radiating as a
folded dipole with a 600 ohms non inductive resistor in  the center of
the top wire. Having said that most any end fed wire with a  resistor to
ground at the far end makes for a quieter antenna on reception  in many
cases. But again to market such a product without any clear  indication
of what it really can do continues to be the way of many amateur  antenna
devices sold to the unsuspecting.


Herb Schoenbohm,  KV4FZ

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>  On Mon,1/4/2016 7:47 PM, john@kk9a.com wrote:
>> All I could find was  a sketch so I'm not sure how it works.
>
> John,
>
>  From the sketch on the Universal Radio website, I analyze it as a loop,  
> formed by the wire, the ground rods, and the earth. The clue is that  
they 
> tell you to add a wire between the ends if you're putting it on  a roof.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
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