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Re: [TowerTalk] Weight on ends of a OCF diploe

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Weight on ends of a OCF diploe
From: "Roger (K8RI) on TT" <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net>
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 22:35:43 -0400
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In a typical installation for an OCF antenna, I'd think a concrete block in a bucket should be more than adequate. Be careful not to exceed the ratings of the antenna or tower. I agree with David on just using the weight at the tree, but here (central Lower Michigan), I'd use a lot more weight because of common spring ice storms

In my case I have a similar arrangement, but it's a center fed, sloping, half wave dipole with one end to the tower and the lower end to a "substantial" tree. I use a relatively strong braided Dacron rope (available from Davis RF and other sources). I depend on the elasticity of the rope, but it's under "roughly" 200# of tension. To eliminate center sag from the coax and choke weight. At this tension there is only a slight visible sag, sighting along the length of the antenna from the lower end. With SW antenna the rope runs through a half inch hose around the back side of the tree. The hose is to protect the tree, The NE antenna ties off to a forged lag bolt with an eye, in a very large tree. At this size there is little danger of the mature tree growing around the lag bolt. A younger tree might require moving the bolt every few years.

I use as much tension as desired within the strength capabilities of the antenna and supports. As a personal preference I'd use at least 100#, with the tower back guyed ( if necessary) With my 45G, the antennas serve as tension against each other. OTOH. My 100' tower's guying is strong enough that back guying would not be needed even at 200# tension in just one direction.

73

Roger (K8RI)

On 8/11/2016 Thursday 12:20 PM, David Robbins wrote:
Enough weight to keep it reasonably tight.  Normally only one end needs to
be able to move, I would do that on the tree end instead of the tower.
typical weights I have seen are buckets filled with concrete or rocks or
sand, 20-30 pounds at most... if it is very long then maybe more weight.

David Robbins K1TTT
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From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Chuck
Gooden
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 16:14
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Subject: [TowerTalk] Weight on ends of a OCF diploe



Retired recently and am getting back into ham radion.

I am planning on putting up a 80 to 10 meter OCF antenna.  The antenna will
be supported on a TV tower with the ends attached to some pine trees.  I am
planning on using a pulley and some weight on the ends to allow for wind
effects on the pine trees.

My question is how much weight will I need at the ends to allow for wind
movement of the trees?

Thanks,


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