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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] getting the ufer ground effect with a burried painted section
From: jimlux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2017 11:42:44 -0700
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On 9/6/17 10:54 AM, Clay Autery wrote:
I am certainly no expert, have no detail information of your environment
or tower/foundation design/materials, and I suspect you will get many
more competent opinions than mine here, but here is my 2 cents for free:

* Considering the numbers involved in your average lightning strike, the
dissipation potential from even an "ideal Ufer" ground setup in the
average tower foundation will likely be of negligible benefit overall.

In fact, the Ufer ground was specifically designed to dissipate the energy from a direct strike in a safe and non-destructive manner.





* An "adequate" lightning ground SYSTEM must dissipate an enormous
quantity of electrons over the largest area possible in the shortest
time period possible.  What is "adequate" is subject to discussion and
mathematics.

Actually, the charge transfer isn't huge - a few coulombs at most. It's the rate of transfer that's the dicey part - 10-100 kiloamps for 50 microseconds.

(note that 100kA peak, which is a big strike, for 50 microseconds, is only 5 coulombs, 5 Amps for a second - and the *average* current in a strike is much less than the peak)

The important part of dissipating the strike energy is:
1) spreading the heating out so nothing melts
2) keeping the voltage difference over a short distance reasonable so people aren't electrocuted from the "step potential" and equipment that's not too far apart doesn't see radically different voltages.


So, let's look at some numbers - say you're spreading 100kA out over the surface of a block of concrete that's 3 feet on a side - the total surface area is 45 square feet, so the current density is about 15 amps/square inch. That's not very big... a AWG 14 house wire about 0.003 square inches, and nobody worries much about sending 15 amps through that.


SO let's look at the voltage rise at that kind of current density through soil or concrete.

Concrete has a resistivity of 3000 ohm/cm - that means if you have a cube of concrete that's 1cm on a side, it's 3000 ohms. We just figured that we have a current density around 15 A/square inch and there's about 6 square cm/square inch, so we're seeing 2-3 A/square cm.

Across that 3000 ohm resistance, you're looking at around 10 kV/cm
Yep, better not be standing with your feet too far apart when lightning strikes.

And how hot will it get?
Let's assume the 3 Amps lasts for 50 microseconds. The power is 3*3*3000, or 27kW for 50 microseconds - 1.35 joules - that's not so huge.

A cubic centimeter of concrete weighs about 3 grams, and the specific heat is very close to 1 Joule/gram/degree, maybe a bit less. So dumping a couple joules into 3 grams of concrete raises the temperature 5-6 degrees C.








* Regardless with what you choose to coat the embedded tower section, or
indeed if you decided to blast it to bright metal, in my opinion, you
should not rely on the tower section or the tower foundation to
measurably increase the effectiveness of your lightning protection.

++++ In short:  don't worry about it.  Devote your attention toward the
REST of your lightning protection system.  <smile>

73,

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G

On 9/6/2017 11:55 AM, Jeff AC0C wrote:
I’m pouring concrete for a tower base using a bottom section standing on gravel 
in the hole.  I had assumed that would prove some UFER ground benefit but wanted to 
ask because before placing the section into the hole it was painted well with the 
Rustoleum cold galvanizing paint.

I hope that I have not voided my ufer ground effect with the application of the 
paint.  Because here in the Midwest, lightning is definitely going to be a 
problem faced sooner than tower corrosion.

73/jeff/ac0c
www.ac0c.com
alpha-charlie-zero-charlie

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