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Re: [TowerTalk] Measuring Common Mode Choke with Anritsu VNA

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Measuring Common Mode Choke with Anritsu VNA
From: Steve Hunt <steve@karinya.net>
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2018 10:00:46 +0000
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Maximo,

A test I use to assess the capacitance added by the test jig is as follows: Wind a high-Q air-cored coil and connect a small-value parallel capacitor across it. Measure its resonant frequency using a "non-contact" method. [I suspend the coil on a nylon line and place coupling coils either side of it, several inches away. One coupling coil goes to a signal generator, the other to a 'scope. When you sweep the generator you quickly see the resonant frequency]. Then re-measure the resonant frequency of the coil using S21 on the VNA. The shift in resonant frequency enables you to assess the capacitance added by the test set up. I typically measure values around 0.2pF.

On a related topic, its worth remembering that the "self-capacitance" of a coil (or choke) doesn't always behave as you might expect. For example, increasing the number of turns can sometimes _decrease_ the self-capacitance. I've also measured examples where a small increase in the number of turns has made an unexpectedly large _increase_ in the self-capacitance. The problem is that models picturing capacitance between adjacent windings are overly simplistic; the winding needs to be treated as a transmission line in order to get results more representative of the real world. There's a good paper on the topic here:
http://g3rbj.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Self-Resonance-in-Toroidal-Inductors.pdf

Steve G3TXQ
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