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Re: [TowerTalk] SO2R or Multiop Contesting without interference

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] SO2R or Multiop Contesting without interference
From: Jeff Blaine <KeepWalking188@ac0c.com>
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 00:52:38 -0500
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Kostats touched on one important factor.  No two stations are the same.  And while the problems are all in the same sets of families, the specific cause and specific fix varies.  It can take a lot of time to determine what the source of a problem is and get it mitigated somehow.  There are lots of variables and the mixer-type of noise sources really can make you crazy tracking them down because they can come from almost anything electrical, electronic or metal in the environment up to quite some distance from the antennas.
73/jeff/ac0c
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On 28-May-18 11:46 PM, kostas sv1dpi wrote:
I know it can be done without interference. In EP6T were I was a member, we were working the 1st day with a hexbeam on 10, 15 and 20m! Interference in k3 was less than an 1S unit! We used 4O3A triplexer and high power band pass filters and w3nqn low power band pass.
In SZ1A (my club) we use dunestar low power band pass filters, stubs 
after the amplifier and monobanders. Also the interference is accepted 
except between 20 and 10m (not very usual situation and not bad but 
more than we would like).
My experience from SZ1A says that your problem is a switching power 
supply. Some years ago we had an ethernet switch. We tested the 
switch's power supply and it was quiet during rx. But the interference 
from 20 to 15 was S9! Same between 40 and 20m. Searching I found the 
problem to be the switching power supply. It re-transmits the noise! 
An easy search to find such a problem is to increase the power and 
watch the problem. For example 5w - no problem, 50w - no problem, 100w 
- no problem, 200w -S9 noise. This is not normal. If the problem was 
because of bad filtering, the interference noise would be more linear. 
For example 5w - no problem, 50w - S1, 100W S3, 200W S5 and goes on.
73 Kostas SV1DPI

Στις 29/5/2018 05:32, ο Timothy Coker via TowerTalk έγραψε:
Is anyone out there operating high power SO2R or Multi-Op without interstation interference (besides being on or very near a harmonic)?
I read reviews of various antennas, new filters, etc of having 
non-existant issues. However, in my limited experience it seems that 
tribanders will have these issues even with the latest high power 
triplexors and band pass filters. Even problems will arise at 
multi-tower stations with monoband yagi stacks and/or different 
direction facing yagi's.
Has anyone got the ability to say that they are trouble free on their 
various band combinations?
For instance, at home I have lots of interference when receiving on 
15m and while transmitting on 20m. Same goes when receiving on 20m 
and transmitting on 40m. For me, it can be both direction and/or 
antenna limited depending on what band combination and which 
tribander that I take out of the stack.
I'm curious about the true confessions that other operators have 
about what they are dealing with when transmitting on multiple bands 
at once? Have some of the stations got this under control? If so is 
it mainly the big property owning stations with many towers or have 
guys on 1-2 tower setups quelled this also?
73,
Tim / N6WIN.
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