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Subject: [TowerTalk] expected life outdoors
From: jimlux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 08:03:24 -0800
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There's a bunch of interesting stuff about degradation of coax outdoors, etc.

This brings up an interesting question. What is a *reasonable* life for something outdoors?

If you really want a rotary joint to last 50 years without touching it, maybe flexible coax isn't the answer, but rather, a RF rotary joint.

Hams, as a general class, have a reputation for unreasonable expectations of life - people get some sort of surplus that's already 20 years old, install it outdoors, and gripe when they have to replace it 20 years later. (I exaggerate, but we've all read the posts on eham that seem like this). I know I have plenty of stuff in my garage that I got 30 years ago: "some day this might be useful" - am I really doing myself any favors by using that surplus roll of coax that was probably manufactured in the 1960s or 1970s? Is my report of its success or failure meaningful, considering nobody else has that same coax, stored in that same way. If I fling imprecations on that particular model of coax, is that meaningful to someone buying coax today?


There are plenty of examples of installations of equipment (e.g. electrical distribution and transmission) with notional 40-50 year life that are now 70+ years old and having not entirely unexpected problems.

Is it really reasonable to expect a "design to cost" amateur radio mechanism (like a rotator) to last 40 years with no service or problems?

And, as well, manufacturers do change their materials and processes - the end product still meets the "data sheet specs", but might have very different other properties. And if you're depending on those "undocumented, untested" properties, you might be in trouble. This is no reflection on the manufacturer, but rather, on the user who relies on happenstance.

(In the space business, we obsess about this kind of thing, which is why space parts cost >10x the regular stuff. We too, just like hams, save ancient spare parts, and then have to deal with reconditioning them, all to save some marginal apparent cost)



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