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Re: [TowerTalk] Fwd: Re: Need a Knot Expert

To: Charles Gallo <>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Fwd: Re: Need a Knot Expert
From: Matthew Kaufman <>
Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2019 09:40:55 -0800
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Yes, if you’re sure you always want a loop, the eye splice is even stronger
and cleaner. But they’re not nearly as easy to do properly in modern rope
as they were in the past.

Inspecting a figure-8 on the end of a nylon/nylon static line can be done
by anyone on a dark rainy night. With the eye splice you just have to trust
it was done properly (which means having a pro shop do it and apply
appropriate tags, where I am)

Matthew Kaufnan

On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 9:23 AM Charles Gallo <> wrote:

> Actually, a properly done eye splice is the strongest way to put a loop on
> the end of a line, but is permanent. Preferably with a metal eye in it.
> For laid rope, I still prefer either a wall and crown or a Matthew Walker
> as a stopper knot, but then again, I tie knots for fun.
> Btw, all of these are not “quick” things to do, although an eye splice
> isn’t too bad if you have the right tool (a fid)
> --
> 73 de KG2V
> Charlie
> > On Dec 1, 2019, at 12:08 PM, Matthew Kaufman <> wrote:
> >
> > Put a figure-8-on-a-bight (with an overhand safety) at the end of each
> rope
> > (strongest way to create a loop at a rope end, outperforms the bowline)
> > Join them with a carabiner. Attach other things at that carabiner. (Or
> > attach carabiners on each to a load plate and attach all you want to
> that).
> > You can leave the figure-8’s on your haul and tag ropes indefinitely,
> > because this a almost always how you want to be set up and it doesn’t
> hunt
> > anything.

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