A somewhat more general question:
There is a whole bunch of trapless tribanders available now, all based
on modeling. How well do the predictions of NEC4 models for these
antennas really agree with actual test results? Antenna testing is
expensive, and I know at least one vendor admits to not testing at all,
relying entirely on the model results. I have a couple of such
commercial antennas, and I'm not convinced they really perform as the
model suggests. I've done some pattern measurements for one of them
under almost exactly the same conditions for which I measured the
pattern of my old TH7. The TH7 looked consistently better and the TH7
patterns looked a lot like those published by HyGain, which were
certainly based on antenna range measurements.
The tuning of yagi parasitic elements is quite critical, so probably
requires much better model accuracy than, say, a dipole. For example,
AFAIK all these model-based tribanders have isolated parasitic elements,
because the effect of the boom can't be modeled easily. The parasitic
elements of the old trapped tribanders could be connected the boom,
because they were initially tuned empirically.
Does anyone know of any measurements made to verify model results for
this sort of antenna? (Even on a scaled VHF/UHF model?)
73,
Scott K9MA
On 10/1/2020 7:59 AM, Steve London wrote:
Jim Lux wrote:
but does the model actually show much difference? One can get way down
in the weeds with this - put a tapered segment in that's 1 cm long,
etc. But if the wavelength is 20 meters, a 1 cm transition is 0.0005
wavelength. I'd worry more about numerical instability than model
accuracy at that point.
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I have been going through the same exercise with a homebrew 15 meter
beam. Can models like N6BV's YW be trusted for segments that are a
small fraction of a wavelength ? What about the Leeson
equations/spreadsheet for converting to an equivalent,
single-diameter, cylindrical element ?
Some examples from my modeling:
- The 1/2" wide, 0.1" thick, 3.5" long, aluminum straps that connects
together the parasitic element halves ?
- The 3" long swaging sections ?
73,
Steve, N2IC
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