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Re: [TowerTalk] CAT5E based RX SWITCH for remote RX ANT distribution-BAL

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] CAT5E based RX SWITCH for remote RX ANT distribution-BALUN
From: Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Reply-to: jim@audiosystemsgroup.com
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2025 21:12:11 -0800
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On 2/14/2025 5:01 PM, Jim Lux wrote:
I'd definitely terminate the shield at one end. You don't want it floating. And 
terminating at both ends might be a way to get an inadvertent loop.  Jim will 
probably weigh in - shielded twisted pair is his jam.

FWIW, I would NOT use shielded CAT cable for this system. Rather, I would use either a transformer or a common mode choke to transition from the coax to the twisted pair at both ends. Twisted pair inherently resists crosstalk at frequencies where the twist ratio in turns/unit length (called the "lay") is high as a fraction of the wavelength, which is certainly the case for the lower ham bands. And the transformer would need to have VERY low capacitance between turns. I gave a talk on this about five years ago, the material was added to the ARRL Antenna Book or Handbook (don't recall which). http://k9yc.com/RXChokesTransformers.pdf I achieved the low capacitance with low loss by placing the two windings on opposing sides of a suitably selected small toroid.

Almost 20 years ago, as part of an EMC workshop for audio professionals, I set up a tutorial demonstration to show the relative importance of twisting and shielding. The signal source was two identical electret microphone known to have RF susceptibility to VHF and UHF signals. One of these mics fed the mix console with a very high quality shielded twisted pair. The other used one pair of high quality CAT5 cable for the signal pair, and both conductors of another pair in that cable in place of the shield. That connection was required, because the FET follower is powered by "phantom power," 12-48VDC, with V+ applied through high value low tolerance resistors to both signal pairs, and V- to the shield (or in this experiment, the pair replacing the shield.

My signal injector was a Kenwood TH-F6A talkie, which I continuously keyed on and off as I moved it along each cable. The observed result was that the two cables were equally good, equally susceptible, the the talkie. That is, both heard it, but it wasn't overwhelming.

And it should be noted that the dynamic range of audio is in the range of 80-100 dB for normal program material, and that the peak output of these mics is on the order of 0.5V - 1V. Another observation is that the turns/inch of that very good mic cable was probably 1/20 that of CAT5.

In the world of pro audio, we learned long ago that twisting is at least as important as shielding.

Neil Muncy had a great demo on this for his tutorial workshops. He connected a dozen or so mic cables in series, running them around the lecture room, and moved a tape demagnetizer along the line as it passed through mating XL-connectors. Within the connectors, the pair was not twisted, and at that point, a very loud hum was heard. Anywhere else along the cable it was not.

73, Jim K9YC



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