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Re: [TowerTalk] UL listed protector for ladder line

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] UL listed protector for ladder line
From: Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Reply-to: jim@audiosystemsgroup.com
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2025 17:47:17 -0700
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On 6/13/2025 4:22 PM, Martin A. Flynn wrote:
The more I look at this, I'm leaning towards a recommendation of scrapping the dipole and going to a 125' long wire and weatherproof / outdoor tuner

For most configurations, it needs a counterpoise, and building could be a good option. But antennas like this are generally poor at rejecting noise, and most buildings are noisy.

What bands do you want to operate? Could your rig a fan dipole? Antennas that are near resonance at frequencies of interest can be effectively choked at the feedpoint, offering at least a bit of noise rejection.

There are some very effective symmetrically loaded dipole designs for two bands with the second band being the second harmonic of the first, and that dipole can be one element of the fan. I've used that to cover 160 and 80 with the loaded dipole, 40 and fifteen with the 40M dipole in a two-element fan. For CQP (California QSO Party) county expeditions, our club (NCCC) has built and loaned both wire and aluminum versions of the loaded design for 20 and 40M. I did the electrical design, W6GJB did the mechanical design and built them. Depending on mounting height and ground conductivity, both designs provide a pretty good match to 50 or 75 ohm coax. SWR bandwidth of the un-loaded band is comparable to a half wave dipole, while bandwidth on the loaded band is reduced by about half. For the 40-20 combo, you want to tweak the design for the primary operating mode.

These are NOT traps - their self resonance is well above the higher band. Unlike trap antennas, the radiation efficiency of these loaded antennas is comparable to an un-loaded half-wave.

Single-band elements of a fan are generally usable on the third harmonic, but the loaded elements are not.

While there are a few multiband versions of the loaded designs advertised in QST, they're much more complex to design and SWR bandwidth suffers as the number of loading coils increases.

73, Jim K9YC



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