A great discussion about choking from the Dayton Antenna Forum this year thanks
to Greg, W8WWV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzqfLfp3h_8
73
Tim K3LR
-----Original Message-----
From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Brindle via TowerTalk
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2025 11:25 PM
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Feedline (choke) question
Both. Verticals will use whatever wire they can for return current. I have more
experience with raised verticals, and know for sure it is a problem there. One
symptom is high RFI in the area below the antenna - this was usually inside the
house, and was noticed immediately. Having lots of radials helps since the
return current will be divided between them. The coax needs to go straight down
from the vertical to minimize its share of the return current, but it will
still share some.
Burying the cable helps for ground-mounted verticals, but if the RF can see the
shield, it will still use it. As in elevated verticals, return current will be
divided up between the radials and any other wire, including the coax.
Best to apply chokes for both types.
One thing I saw when developing the KPA500 firmware was the effect of RF
current on the outside of coax when it gets to an SO-239 that has a directional
coupler attached. For these tests, of course, that was a KPA500. The outer and
inner currents actually combine, increasing the measured reflected power. As
far as the amplifier was concerned this was actually anomalous - only the
current inside the coax mattered for this measurement. Choking the coax
eliminated the issue. I have since seen this with other SWR bridges/directional
couplers. Basically, where ever the first SO239 is hit, the currents combine.
If that is a component that measures antenna properties, the reading will
probably be anomalous, especially for reflected power. I have never seen this
documented anywhere to this point. It would seem to be a good QEX article for
someone who has the time to do the measurements and testing and write it up.
73,
Jack, W6FB
> On Sep 26, 2025, at 7:35 PM, john@kk9a.com wrote:
>
> Are you talking about a ground mounted vertical or an elevated vertical?
>
> John KK9A
>
>
> Jack Brindle W6FB wrote:
> <snip>
> I have found that the one antenna type that absolutely must have a choke is
> a vertical. Without it the coax will provide a return for the current (no
> matter how many radials) and give all sorts of problems.
>
> 73,
> Jack, W6FB
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> TowerTalk mailing list
> TowerTalk@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk
_______________________________________________
_______________________________________________
TowerTalk mailing list
TowerTalk@contesting.com
http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk
_______________________________________________
_______________________________________________
TowerTalk mailing list
TowerTalk@contesting.com
http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk
|