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Re: [TowerTalk] W7PUA Tiny Ground Probe

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] W7PUA Tiny Ground Probe
From: Brian Beezley <k6sti@att.net>
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2026 12:17:57 -0800
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AB7E said:

"...I'd be most interested in trying to determine how deep the equivalent RF ground is for future modeling (because it certainly isn't at the surface of my dry Arizona hillside)..."

Dave, the RF ground begins at the surface, but it may extend well below. For a plane wave exciting uniform soil, ground current decays exponentially. It decays to 37% of the surface value at the skin depth, which is determined by ground permittivity and conductivity. By two or three skin depths the current has decayed to an insignificant value. You can see skin depth values for various kinds of soil at HF here:

https://k6sti.neocities.org/hfgc

The problem is that your soil is not necessarily uniform. The electrical characteristics may change gradually or suddenly. Stratified ground has layers of soil of different characteristics. NEC can't model that, and ground probes measure only the surface layer:

https://k6sti.neocities.org/sg

Using a low antenna to determine ground constants below the surface is an attractive idea. However, it has many problems. See the end of the stratified ground writeup for a brief discussion.

Brian

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