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Re: [VHFcontesting] Masting . . .

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Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Masting . . .
From: Fred Lass <felasstic@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:57:13 -0700 (PDT)
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Note that water pipe has a rated yeild strength of 30,000 PSI.  Most mast 
materials are rated at 80,000 PSI.
 
When you buy pipe, 2 inch pipe is 2 3/8" OD; 1.5" pipe is 1.9" OD wall 
thickness of .145, but 2" tubing is really 2" OD.
So, in round numbers, a real 2" mast with .25" wall is ten times as strong as a 
1.5" schedule 40 pipe. 
Normal wall thickness of pipe is schedule 40, thicker wall is schedule 80.
 
So, pipe is fine for small antennas that are not too far above the top of the 
tower.  That's why you often see 6 meter antennas lowest on the mast.  For 
stacking 6 meter beams, a real mast is necessary.
 
My friend Saul, K2XA, didn't believe me and bought a 1.5" schedule 80 pipe and 
mounted a 6 element 10 meter beam 20' above the top of the tower.  I refused to 
install it for him, so he did it himself.  It bent in a 50 MPH wind.  Removing 
the bent mast was the hardest tower job that I ever did.
 
73,  Fred K2TR  


"S.J.Swanson" <swanson@ticon.net> wrote:KC8QVO, Steve said:

" . . . Also, what does everyone recommend as a mast? Array Solutions sells 
some REALLY NICE PE certified masts, but they are VERY expensive. I was 
thinking about going to the plumbing supply store and getting a 2" galvanized 
steel pipe. . . . " 

In a direct communication to Steve I had suggested 2 inch o.d. galvanized pipe 
which is 1.5 i.d. inch water pipe. The 2 inch nominal is actually 1 and 7/16 
inches which means that the walls are 1/4 inch or 7/32 inches. The stuff is 
bullet proof and a 15 foot spliced piece with two VHF and two HF beams survived 
a wind event that pulled my tower away from the house and twisted the two lower 
sections of tower. The antennas, top two sections of tower and the mast are 
still pristine and in use. 

I use this pipe because 26 years ago, HyGain used it as their "gold standard" 
when describing the process for shimming a mast in the Ham IV rotator. I do not 
use the new stuff --I priced it today, it is $33.00 per 10 foot section. I go 
to a salvage yard and get used 1.5 inch pipe. It may have rust on the inside 
but I have found that pipe with no external pitting or rust is as strong as new 
and only runs 40 cents per foot. It is sold by the pound at the junk dealer. 

When it is necessary to splice in order to get a desired length, I take the 
pipe to a hardware store and have them extend the threads beyond the standard 
for a water seal. This in conjunction with a standard coupling gives plenty of 
purchase to give a strong joint. Once assembled I drill through the coupling 
and pipe and install tension pins (roll pins) to prevent the joint from 
unscrewing. (It did happen once!) 

The down side is that the stuff is heavy. However, I have a Glen Martin Hazer 
on each of my towers and I am working from a roof top or from the ground. Easy 
enough to use a block and tackle on the tower to lift the mast above the Hazer 
and lower it into the bearing. Of course once it is in place, weight is a non 
issue. 

73, Sherm KB9Q, (EN52vv)

swanson-KB9Q@ticon.net
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