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Re: [VHFcontesting] 6M Sprint UTC Time Question

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Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] 6M Sprint UTC Time Question
From: R Johnson <k1vu@tmlp.com>
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 08:45:47 -0500
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Hi Jim:
TNX for the reply.

This is pretty much what I thought, but I didn't want to tell him what "My 
Guesses" were.

I did tell him that not all contests were the same and that's what made them 
I also told him that "Not all things are Fair" as we see them at first glance.
What 9 month old kid REALLY enjoys having "PABULUM" for breakfast EVERY day ???
All contests are different, just work them and enjoy them !!!

My friend is learning about 6M fast. He was VERY happy even though only made 1 
He said if he only makes 2 QSO's in the next contest it will be a 100% score 
increase. :-)
He is getting a 5 el. beam and I found him an old TV rotor. Big improvement 
over his dipole.

I'd hate to see the 6M Sprint dropped. I think your idea of moving to December 
is a good one.
The last Saturday in December would miss both holidays, more people take 
vacation then and
would be available for the Sprint, and the winter E's are possible at that time.
1200Z to 1600Z would give everyone 4 hours of daylight operating time.
Just my thoughts.

TNX es 73
Bob, K1VU
35 Years on 6M and still having FUN !!!

At 22:48 11/3/2007, Jim Worsham wrote:
>I will take this one since I am one of the SVHFS folks who runs the Fall
>Sprints.  Since all of the other Sprints (2 Meters and up) are on bands with
>relatively restricted range they all use local time.  For example, the 2
>Meter Sprint starts in the pacific time zone three hours after it starts in
>the eastern time zone.  I know, there are stations near the boarders between
>time zones but that results in a time difference of only one hour and you
>have to draw the line somewhere.  The 6 meter band on the other hand is
>considered more of a DX band.  For that reason we want it to start at the
>same time everywhere in the world so it uses UTC time (aka Zulu Time).  I am
>sorry your friend didn't have good luck with the 6 Meter Fall Sprint.
>Frankly, it isn't at a very good time of the year for 6 meter propagation
>and we have never had a lot of activity in the sprint.  We have even talked
>about just dropping it or maybe moving it to xmas/new years and calling it a
>winter sprint.  Any suggestions on how to improve any of the fall sprints
>but especially the 6 meter sprint are appreciated.
>Jim, W4KXY
>-----Original Message-----
>From: vhfcontesting-bounces@contesting.com
>[mailto:vhfcontesting-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of R Johnson
>Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 5:39 PM
>To: vhfcontesting@contesting.com
>Subject: [VHFcontesting] 6M Sprint UTC Time Question
>I had one of the new Hams in our club express an interest in working 6M.
>I suggested that he try the 6M Sprint to get his feet wet and told him not
>to expect many QSO's except a few locals.
>I had him print and read the rules, make up a log sheet, and set a clock to
>While he was listening to "dead air" on his dipole he re-read the rules to
>kill time.
>Couple of day later he asked me a question I couldn't answer.
>The question is: If all the other Sprints run from 7 PM to 11 PM local time,
>how come the 6M Sprint runs from 2300Z to 0300Z. He figured out that the
>West Coast was starting at 4 PM local time while he was starting at 7 PM
>local time, giving the West Coast a 3hr daylight advantage over the East
>I figure is he was smart enough to ask the question, he deserves a fair
>"Just because that's the way rules are" didn't seem quite good enough !!!
>TNX es 73
>Bob, K1VU
>BTW: He made 1 QSO and is looking forward to the JAN VHF Contest. I think
>he's hooked.
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