Oh Ya ! 20yrs ago.. it was 'Put it in the Trunk Guys' ! Not Any More ! ;o(
Jerry
p.s. I am not 'Condoning Drinking and Driving' ! (You may hit a Bump and
Spill Some)
On 1/3/2015 4:51 PM, Joel Harrison wrote:
When they towed the car did they take the beer ?????????????? :-)))
ZN
So lets see.. I get a group of Op's together.. 'Lets take a Drive to
Montana for a Beer Run !
Its $25 to $30 in VE for a dozen..but $10 to $12 in MT ! Operate
during the trip South in the Contest, cover 3, 4, or 5 Grids, there and
back..have to
'Pull Over occasionally for ??
Use my Lap Top to Spot/Log our Q's ! This could be Fun !
So.. Unlimited /R and /Multi-Op.. (pull over for someone.. now /P)
Hey ! I think we may have just Won 'Unlimited Rover-Portable-Multi-Op'
Category !
Wait.. where did we park..? What do you mean they 'Towed it Away' ?
Anyone keep a 'paper log'..? No..? Well, this is gonna be a 'Long Walk
Home' ! ;-)
Sorry.. had to say it.. (but I would try it though !) 73
Jerry
VE6CPP
DN39or (and 'could be many others too !)
On 1/3/2015 11:29 AM, Bill Olson wrote:
i.e.: Get people on the air.,,,,
I haven't heard a lot about this on this reflector or the other email
lists, BUT.....
Isn't it really ridiculous to have 13 (or is it 14) entrance categories
for the VHF contests? With decreasing participation it's getting to be
that some of the categories only have only one (or NO) entries!!!
Not to play the "old guy" card, but I will anyway (Hi Wayne!!) In the
50's 60's when I started contesting there were only 2 categories, single
op, multiop. The participation was at an all time high then. now, what's
the deal?? everyone gets a trophy??? OR.. no one wants to get on the air
unless they are guaranteed to win??>
All that being said, I will get on for the contests no matter what
because it's fun. I don't have any pretense of being able to WIN.. I
just like to be able to work the guys.. and operating when other
stations are on the air is FUN!
back in the day we made an occasional phone call to get someone on the
air... We still made the actual contact "on the air".
I totally embrace the rover category. I think if I had my way there
would be THREE entrant categories, SO, MO, Rover. but realize this
brings up new issues.. can we just start to get SANE about this? Does
anyone really think 13 or 14 entrance categories is good for VHF
contesting???
bill, K1DY (ex w3HQT)
From: rick1ds@hotmail.com
To: k2txb@dxcc.com; packrats@mailman.qth.net
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 12:33:10 -0500
CC: hwardsil@gmail.com; w1msw@arrl.org
Subject: Re: [Packrats] What N0AX says about "Assistance"
Everyone is a bit confused at this point as to what these new categories
of "unlimited" or "assisted" stations can or cannot do. Additionally, if
this applies to MAP65 for EME, does this also create new categories for
the EME contest? Patience--hopefully we'll all find out when Ward andor
Matt make this clearer on the VHF reflectors and answer some questions
we have.
From: k2txb@dxcc.com
To: rick1ds@hotmail.com; packrats@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Packrats] What N0AX says about "Assistance"
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 08:54:11 -0500
Hi Rick & all. That paragraph is hard to understand in the context
shown, and even in context. The context is that it applies to the
Single Operator Unlimited. However when it says “not physically
locat4ed at the station is permitted”, that is very unclear at least to
me. Does that mean one could use cw skimmer if it is not located at the
station, but could not use it if it was located at the station? Very
poorly written rule, I think. Also the exception, “spotting information
obtained from any source
outside the station boundary via a closed or dedicated communication
link may not be used.”. So does that rule out the internet if connected
via a wire line? How about if you are receiving internet via
satellite…? I suspect that that exception is trying to say that one
cannot set up a private link to a remote receiver and use that for
spotting (or for other contest purposes I would presume), but why not
say that? Well, just my two cents… I don’t like assisted classes for
contests anyway… 73, Russ K2TXB From: Packrats
[mailto:packrats-bounces@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Rick R
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2015 9:56 PM
To: packrats reflector
Subject: [Packrats] What N0AX says about "Assistance" In the absence of
alternative rulings from HQ about what constitutes the
boundary between SO and SOU, I would use the following from the HF Rules
(http://www.arrl.org/general-rules-for-arrl-contests-below-30-mhz):
*2.2.1.*Use of spotting assistance or nets (operating arrangements
involving other individuals, DX-alerting nets, packet, multi-channel
decoders such as CW Skimmer, etc) not physically located at the station
is permitted. (Exception: spotting information obtained from any source
outside the station boundary via a closed or dedicated communication
link may not be used.)
Before anybody gets cranked up about HF rules in VHF+ contests, remember
that the original recommendation was only to create SOU in all ARRL HF
contests and it was the P&SC which extended it to VHF+ without any
additional discussion. So the original recommendation was based on
2.2.1 as above. That definition needs to be broadened and made less
dependent on specific technology but it will suffice for now.
73, Ward N0AX
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