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Re: [VHFcontesting] FT8 on 2m

To: Mark Spencer <mark@alignedsolutions.com>
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] FT8 on 2m
From: Dana <ve3ds@acanac.net>
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 16:32:45 -0400
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Yes, looking at APRS on a SpecA 390 is pretty noisy…
We also have pagers below 144 as well so 144.1 - 144.150 isn’t a bad idea, plus 
avoiding crowding the typical SSB frequencies used 
here in the east isn’t a good idea… we still have Packet operations going here 
sporadically too…
Given the FT8 is a narrow band mode and if everyone stays on the same sequence 
you could probably almost survive on 1 frequency.

Dana VE3DS

On Jul 13, 2017, at 13:59, Mark Spencer <mark@alignedsolutions.com> wrote:

Thanks for the link.   Re operating above 144.300 I would want to stay well 
clear of the usual APRS frequency (144.39 ?).  I'm not convinced having  a weak 
signal mode using SSB radios near a FM based packet mode would work out well 
and I suspect the weak signal operators will be the losers in this situation.

Some one smarter than me can probably speak to what a sensible frequency 
separation should be given typical amateur transmitter noise levels and 
receiver performance.   After looking at the lower portion of the 2M band with 
a spectrum scope I suspect some transmitters are "cleaner" than others.

Here in western Canada we also have strong non amateur signals immediately 
below the 2M band, between those non amateur signals and APRS, 144.200 seems to 
be a nice spot for weak signal work IMHO.   I also use cavity filters at my 
home station (and occasionally while roving) with an approx 50 KHz bandwidth, 
but I realize we need to think globally and cramming every thing into a narrow 
window doesn't make much sense.

73

Mark S
VE7AFZ

mark@alignedsolutions.com
604 762 4099

Mark Spencer

Aligned Solutions Co.
mark@alignedsolutions.com
604 762 4099
> On Jul 13, 2017, at 2:04 AM, K7XC Tim Marek <k7xcnv1@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Take a moment to look at the IARU Region 2 band plan proposal at:
> https://wsjtx.net/home/proposed_band_plan.html
> 
> He makes some valid points not to mention his website is a wonderful
> resource of VHF+ operating info.
> 
> With regard to 2M frequencies... we all need to get used to thinking
> globally, not locally or regionally, as to supplement each others efforts
> and not fall into conflict as activity and modes grow.
> 
> A bit of effort now to ensure everyone is on the same page now will go a
> LONG ways to ensuring a mode conflict free band in the future.
> 
> Personally I would love to see some use of the area above 144.300 in region
> 2 and putting FT8 up there now is a good way to promote that.
> 
> 73s de Tim - K7XC - DM09jh... sk
> 
> PS: If your not on the new WSJT Mode "FT8" for Terrestrial VHF, your
> missing out!  Its a vast improvement over JT65 for 6M DXing.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 1:16 AM, k7xcnv1 <k7xcnv1@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> It has to be above 144.100 by law.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my MetroPCS 4G LTE Android device
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Nick Pick <nicolasgagnon@hotmail.fr>
>> Date: 7/12/2017 07:04 (GMT-08:00)
>> To: vhfcontesting@contesting.com
>> Subject: [VHFcontesting] FT8 on 2m
>> 
>> Hi everyone, just wondering wich frequencies should we use for FT8 on 2m?
>> CQ WW VHF is coming and FT8 could be useful when USB voice just don't make
>> it
>> (in last ARRL June VHF, happen a few time when I hear someone but he was
>> not hearing me and vice-versa) So... 144.079 perhaps?
>> 
>> 
>> Nicolas
>> 
>> VE2NCG
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