Totally agree with John. It is a great mode because almost anyone with VHF+
equipment of any kind have it, and it gets people on the air. 100mi contacts
off HTs on small yagis are doable in the Northwest ouncing off Mt Hood, Mt
Rainier, or Mt St Helens. Its fun to work those paths where the ops can't do
LOS. SOTA is big here and in June and September contests I've seen a decent
chunk of 2m and 70cm FM QSOs vs SSB or any other. A point is a point, and you
might not get many multipliers on FM but there are a lot of QSOs to be had.
That helps your score considerably.
I do wish though .52 (or its regional preferences) were off-limits. I don't
know the history, but as I was told the rules used to leave it open... and now
ARRL doesn't (CQ WW VHF does). Regionally here its a gentleman's agreement to
leave it open and contest anywhere from .46 to .58, though so many do not
follow that. I've never noticed any conflicts on any other band here, just 2m.
I've run into that all over the region here.
I suppose there is a rationale, or there was, for allowing the 'National
Calling Frequency' as a contesting frequency. But at least here there are still
some wide open spaces where a CB radio and a 2m rig still rule the airwaves
over a smartphone. You might even consider calling on CB to get the hams on the
air (it isn't mutually exclusive). There are vast parts of Oregon and
Washington with no cell service, yet I can can and have called .52 and still
get a call back. We can rightfully say per the rules say 'spin the VFO' to that
guy, but that seems inconsiderate and contrary to the purpose of that
frequency, unless it no longer functionally exists as one.
Greg, K3RW (in 7 land)
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Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 6:21:31 PM
To: vhfcontesting@contesting.com <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
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Subject: Re: FM Underutilized?
It was sure fun in Northern VA this weekend on FM, particularly since FM is "an
underutilized" category as some have pointed out. I may have been the guy Greg
mentioned trying raise activity levels on FM. I have worked hard at driving up
FM participation and it has paid off handsomely. Every year there is more and
more activity. This year it was almost too much activity, if there is such a
thing.
This weekend there were always contacts available except maybe between midnight
and 5 am. I have 150+ separate FM stations in my log with 360 FM QSO's.
There were far more than 150 hams on the air using FM in our area, I just
couldn't work all of them (capture effect favors the strong).
520 was a mad house with lots of people calling CQ contest. You could call CQ
contest on 52.525, 146.520, 223.500 or 446.000 and get a reply. Replies were
instantaneous on 520 and only a slight delay on 446 with 223.500 perhaps
taking a minute and 52.525 being several minutes between replies. Lots of
QSY's and the QSY piggy backing was constant. It was not uncommon that when I
or others would try to run the bands quickly with another station, especially
Rovers, anywhere from 3 to 5 others would follow us from band to band to get in
on the action.
Generally when someone got on calling CQ (not CQ Contest) to another station
directly people stood down as per the rules since contesting is secondary but I
wont say it was universal. I did not hear ANY complaints. There are a few nets
held on 520, especially informal "church nets" on the Sunday morning Church
drive. They moved to 550 or 580 and then many got on 520 afterwards to take
part in the fun.
Sunday night if a new station showed up they had a half dozen contest stations
all over them instantly. Much unexpected fun was had by non contesters.
Going back to FM being Underutilized:
I have to laugh at the FM is underutilized comments. People complain that SSB
PH is dead, yet SSB PH has a reach of many hundreds of miles and you cant be
constantly busy working stations yet I and others can on short range FM?
Ignoring the big dog contest stations, the FM reach is 40 to 100 miles since
the typical FM station worked is a 5W HT or 50W mobile on an omni IN A NOISY
CITY, yet the activity was constant here. I suspect that we had more hams on
the air per square mile in this region on FM than anywhere else in the country
on any mode. There is not an activity level problem on FM around here.
In SoCal, Rochester and Northern Va a few hams make the effort to generate turn
out. For my part I emailed every ham with an email address on QRZ in a 200
mile radius before the September 2017 contest (about 2,000) asking them to get
on the air on FM. Every year since then I only email FM stations I have made a
QSO with. I send that email a month before the contest requesting they get on
the air. Over the last 4 years that email list has grown from 150 to 400, it
will be closer to 600 now. Most get on the air and look forward to the event.
I have made many friends. Only two hams have asked me to delete them from the
email list. 99% dont submit a log, they just get on the air to have fun. Logs
submitted does not equal activity level.
FM is regional and a person or a club can make a big difference in activity
levels if you put some effort into it. Make the effort to generate turn out.
VHF/UHF contesting is FUN even on lowly boring underutilized FM.
73
John
KM4KMU
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From: Gregory Winters <greg_winters@hotmail.com>
To: James C <jabeco@gmail.com>; Mark Spencer <mark@alignedsolutions.com>
Cc: vhfcontesting@contesting.com <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
Sent: Mon, Jan 18, 2021 11:25 pm
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Prpposal: change SOFM to allow more bands
I'm guessing bandwidth isn't an issue with FM voice being just kHz wide, until
something like a wideband gunnplexers are considered. But I might be wrong on
that. Some FM ATV 900MHz on up units do exist, though the older PCE and AEA
units used are is older Vestigal Sideband, some version of AM, or other things
which aren't 'FM'. Like most gunn units they never get used in these contests
either, and their use has plummeted.
I'm newer to gunn units (don't have one yet) so I don't know the interference
potential to narrowband, or wbFM and/or nbFM vs a narrowband SSB signal or digi
on 3cm. I see some units at 10.250/10.280 with a 30MHz IF, and some other X
band stuff above 10.500.
On SOFM I realized in the Northwest it was no challenge to win the division so
I started multiop'ing to get senior hams back on the air. They had old
equipment and good QTHs but didn't like FM or digital, so I worked those sides.
And like SOFM they usually won easily or by default. It worked okay until COVID
hit and no one could contest. But given very few SOFM entries in any given
contest across all divisions (I was #6 SOFM in the contest overall last year in
Jan '20 with a rather minimal effort) I could see they could easily justify
eliminating the SOFM class altogether and creating 'all digital' or something.
There was some article (QST?) a year or so ago where some ham wrote about
entering and winning a VHF contest to try to drive interest to SOFM. It didn't
significantly increase SOFM entries afterward. Uh oh.
I'd probably be happy if it didn't have 6m at all due to cross-polarization,
but even moreso the SWR can be really high for other ops at 52.525. Its the #1
reason why I frequently a 'thanks but no thanks' asking for a guy to run at
52.525. To get around it we could have run FM around the SSB and digi segment
to deal with the SWR issue (on their end) but only if we wanted people to curse
us out. And if 900MHz is under consideration for 6G expansion or whatnot, it
would be nice to get people to start actually using it. I'd bet most have FM
only if they have anything at all on the band.
100w seems modest enough as a power level, and never occurred to me to propose
a change to it. Some of the big guns may want a change to allow QRO SOFM and
support a big change only so they can finally win their section on their DC to
daylight superstation :/
There is probably some history of why those bands were chosen. I'd be curious
what that is, though I am also curious if it is still relevant. Maybe because
Yaesu or Icom came out with a quad band FM HT that year LOL
73
Greg
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Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 2:54:40 PM
To: James C <jabeco@gmail.com<mailto:jabeco@gmail.com>>
Cc: Gregory Winters
<greg_winters@hotmail.com<mailto:greg_winters@hotmail.com>>;
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Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Prpposal: change SOFM to allow more bands
Yep.. I carry a 1.2 GHz HT, an Alinco 222 / 927 HT, and a 50, 144, 432 HT with
me on almost every rove I go on. They get enough use to make it worthwhile to
charge up the batteries and pack them up each contest.
73
Mark S
VE7AFZ
mark@alignedsolutions.com<mailto:mark@alignedsolutions.com>
604 762 4099
> On Jan 18, 2021, at 2:43 PM, James C
> <jabeco@gmail.com<mailto:jabeco@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> +1 on this idea Greg.
> Lots of FM 1.2 gear out there (and Alinco 902 HH & flashed Kenwood 902
> mobiles).
> I support your effort to increase SOFM to all bands.
>
> 73 .-James K7KQA
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 2:36 PM Gregory Winters
> <greg_winters@hotmail.com<mailto:greg_winters@hotmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
>> While we are pondering proposed changes to SO3B, why not also consider
>> updating one of the most underutilized classes as well: SOFM.
>>
>> I like idea of SOFM, but its typically limited to just the lowest 4 bands:
>> 6, 2, 222, and 70cm.
>>
>> Perhaps the SOFM was initially a good idea with those bands, but 6m in
>> particular gets very little play on FM. SOFM gets such little participation
>> in the contest overall, even a small score can win a division--and I say
>> that having done so (!).
>>
>> But on 900MHz and 1296 there is considerable FM equipment in the amateur
>> community, as well as gunnplexers that never see voltage anymore. Can we
>> change that?
>>
>> I propose either opening SOFM to all bands, or if that isn't palatable
>> opening it to a max of 4 bands (and the op chooses which 4). That way even
>> 10 and 24GHz gunn units and perhaps even FM-ATV units can be part of the
>> fun?
>>
>> I haven't formally proposed a change, but rather wanted to facilitate the
>> idea to see if there is any support.
>>
>> 73 de Greg, K3RW
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