Running a mode besides FT8 would require venturing outside of the
herd....There is safety in the herd...hihi. S7 sigs here and everyone is
still droning away.
Oh well,
Ben KB0ZOM
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> 1. Re: PSE try FT4 on 6m (George Fremin III)
> 2. 6 meters is open for SSB. (Donald Fox)
> 3. Re: PSE try FT4 on 6m (Tim Lee)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2024 11:03:38 -0500
> From: George Fremin III <geoiii@kkn.net>
> To: alex@kr1st.com
> Cc: Tim C <timcoad@gmail.com>, vhfcontesting@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] PSE try FT4 on 6m
> Message-ID: <F28FDD2F-402E-4178-AACB-B2B7A71A4DEF@kkn.net>
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>
> Or just go to SSB when the band opens!
>
> George Fremin III
>
> > On Jun 9, 2024, at 9:42?AM, alex@kr1st.com wrote:
> >
> > ?I?m only sporadically in the contest this time around so I have no idea
> how 6m has been all weekend, I just noticed the opening and see most folks
> still on FT8 while FT4 could be so much more effective if more folks would
> adopt it. It?s a lot more like the old RTTY, a mode that I always liked,
> too. Even if folks would spread out a little more on FT8 than just the 3kHz
> at 313 it would be an improvement.
> >
> >
> >
> > Yes, good luck to everyone!
> >
> >
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > --Alex KR1ST
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Tim C <timcoad@gmail.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2024 10:13 AM
> > To: alex@kr1st.com
> > Cc: vhfcontesting@contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] PSE try FT4 on 6m
> >
> >
> >
> > Funny, Wish we had that problem here. Band has been dead for me all
> weekend so far.
> >
> >
> >
> > Good luck everyone.
> >
> > Tim
> >
> > NU6S
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 9, 2024 at 7:10?AM <alex@kr1st.com <mailto:alex@kr1st.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hi there,
> >
> >
> >
> > When 6m is open like it is now, please try FT4. The 3dB loss in signal
> strength does not measure up to your signal being buried by everyone else
> wo is also staying on FT8.
> >
> >
> >
> > Of course, if you?re really daring, you can try SSB or CW. ?
> >
> >
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > --Alex KR1ST
> >
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2024 16:19:12 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Donald Fox <taurusshoguy@yahoo.com>
> To: vhfcontesting@contesting.com
> Subject: [VHFcontesting] 6 meters is open for SSB.
> Message-ID: <391302419.2036468.1717949952876@mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> GA all. Been working 6 meter SSB for the last couple of hours.
> Not a huge amount of SSB stations on, but the ones there are booming in
> from the west to EM79. I'll take a good SSB Q over digi anytime.
>
> GL N8ECH
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2024 11:32:24 -0500
> From: Tim Lee <w5trl.tim@gmail.com>
> To: George Fremin III <geoiii@kkn.net>
> Cc: alex@kr1st.com, Tim C <timcoad@gmail.com>,
> vhfcontesting@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] PSE try FT4 on 6m
> Message-ID:
> <CABTfpMN=
> cd84HM-q+v83TyrxefJGcCXT0whfc0CCfU54mySRyg@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> George -
>
> I agree that one of the downsides to the digital modes is how it's affected
> the QSO rate on SSB.... In the 80s I could keep pace with the best of
> operators on voice modes..... However, it's now the rare exception
> that I don't have to repeatedly ask for folks to repeat their callsigns due
> to poor QUALITY hearing.... I still work the locals OK on SSB because I
> know/recognize them from habit. And, for the record, hearing aids
> actually make it WORSE (regardless of hearing aid brand/technology). Even
> P25/C4FM/DMR/etc "clear mode" FM sounds like mush to me... So you can
> imagine how SSB sounds to me.
>
> Again, "I get it"... however for some of us, the digital modes allow us to
> still enjoy the hobby, regardless of what old age or loud hobbies have done
> to us over the years.
>
> my .02, FWIW, YMMV, hoping you're blessed with the ability to hear things
> clearly and well for the rest of your days,
>
> 73 Tim W5TRL
>
> On Sun, Jun 9, 2024 at 11:04?AM George Fremin III <geoiii@kkn.net> wrote:
>
> > Or just go to SSB when the band opens!
> >
> > George Fremin III
> >
> > > On Jun 9, 2024, at 9:42?AM, alex@kr1st.com wrote:
> > >
> > > ?I?m only sporadically in the contest this time around so I have no
> idea
> > how 6m has been all weekend, I just noticed the opening and see most
> folks
> > still on FT8 while FT4 could be so much more effective if more folks
> would
> > adopt it. It?s a lot more like the old RTTY, a mode that I always liked,
> > too. Even if folks would spread out a little more on FT8 than just the
> 3kHz
> > at 313 it would be an improvement.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes, good luck to everyone!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 73,
> > >
> > > --Alex KR1ST
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Tim C <timcoad@gmail.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2024 10:13 AM
> > > To: alex@kr1st.com
> > > Cc: vhfcontesting@contesting.com
> > > Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] PSE try FT4 on 6m
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Funny, Wish we had that problem here. Band has been dead for me all
> > weekend so far.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Good luck everyone.
> > >
> > > Tim
> > >
> > > NU6S
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jun 9, 2024 at 7:10?AM <alex@kr1st.com <mailto:alex@kr1st.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi there,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > When 6m is open like it is now, please try FT4. The 3dB loss in signal
> > strength does not measure up to your signal being buried by everyone else
> > wo is also staying on FT8.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Of course, if you?re really daring, you can try SSB or CW. ?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 73,
> > >
> > > --Alex KR1ST
> > >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2024 12:55:56 -0400
> From: Sid Shusterman <k3sx@comcast.net>
> To: vhfcontesting@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] PSE try FT4 on 6m
> Message-ID: <fdad7be3-c61f-4d5b-8dce-97e3d4c9d68a@comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> Thank you Tim- well said. With 2 hearing aids and 2 pair of glasses the
> digital modes take some of the strain off the aging brain here too.
> 73, Sid K3SX
>
> On 6/9/2024 12:32 PM, Tim Lee wrote:
> > George -
> >
> > I agree that one of the downsides to the digital modes is how it's
> affected
> > the QSO rate on SSB.... In the 80s I could keep pace with the best of
> > operators on voice modes..... However, it's now the rare exception
> > that I don't have to repeatedly ask for folks to repeat their callsigns
> due
> > to poor QUALITY hearing.... I still work the locals OK on SSB because I
> > know/recognize them from habit. And, for the record, hearing aids
> > actually make it WORSE (regardless of hearing aid brand/technology).
> Even
> > P25/C4FM/DMR/etc "clear mode" FM sounds like mush to me... So you can
> > imagine how SSB sounds to me.
> >
> > Again, "I get it"... however for some of us, the digital modes allow us
> to
> > still enjoy the hobby, regardless of what old age or loud hobbies have
> done
> > to us over the years.
> >
> > my .02, FWIW, YMMV, hoping you're blessed with the ability to hear things
> > clearly and well for the rest of your days,
> >
> > 73 Tim W5TRL
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 9, 2024 at 11:04?AM George Fremin III <geoiii@kkn.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Or just go to SSB when the band opens!
> >>
> >> George Fremin III
> >>
> >>> On Jun 9, 2024, at 9:42?AM, alex@kr1st.com wrote:
> >>>
> >>> ?I?m only sporadically in the contest this time around so I have no
> idea
> >> how 6m has been all weekend, I just noticed the opening and see most
> folks
> >> still on FT8 while FT4 could be so much more effective if more folks
> would
> >> adopt it. It?s a lot more like the old RTTY, a mode that I always liked,
> >> too. Even if folks would spread out a little more on FT8 than just the
> 3kHz
> >> at 313 it would be an improvement.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Yes, good luck to everyone!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 73,
> >>>
> >>> --Alex KR1ST
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Tim C <timcoad@gmail.com>
> >>> Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2024 10:13 AM
> >>> To: alex@kr1st.com
> >>> Cc: vhfcontesting@contesting.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] PSE try FT4 on 6m
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Funny, Wish we had that problem here. Band has been dead for me all
> >> weekend so far.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Good luck everyone.
> >>>
> >>> Tim
> >>>
> >>> NU6S
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Jun 9, 2024 at 7:10?AM <alex@kr1st.com <mailto:alex@kr1st.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi there,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> When 6m is open like it is now, please try FT4. The 3dB loss in signal
> >> strength does not measure up to your signal being buried by everyone
> else
> >> wo is also staying on FT8.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Of course, if you?re really daring, you can try SSB or CW. ?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 73,
> >>>
> >>> --Alex KR1ST
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> VHFcontesting mailing list
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2024 17:23:19 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Guy Chabot <guy.chabot@verizon.net>
> To: "vhfcontesting@contesting.com" <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] VHFcontesting Digest, Vol 258, Issue 7
> Message-ID: <786332301.3736225.1717953799971@mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> What is the 6 meter Frequency for FT4 ?
> On Sunday, June 9, 2024 at 08:48:14 AM PDT,
> vhfcontesting-request@contesting.com <vhfcontesting-request@contesting.com>
> wrote:
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> ? 1. AA4ZZ EM96 (Aa4zz)
> ? 2. PSE try FT4 on 6m (alex@kr1st.com)
> ? 3. Re: PSE try FT4 on 6m (Tim C)
> ? 4. Re: PSE try FT4 on 6m (alex@kr1st.com)
> ? 5. Re: PSE try FT4 on 6m (Tim Lee)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2024 16:47:17 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Aa4zz <aa4zz@aol.com>
> To: "vhfcontesting@contesting.com" <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
> Subject: [VHFcontesting] AA4ZZ EM96
> Message-ID: <1323093707.1946342.1717865237547@mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> The AA4ZZ team will be active in the June VHF Contest from our mountain
> top site in NW North Carolina. We will be on 50, 144, 222, and 432 Mhz. We
> have stacked beams and KWs on each band.?
> 73 Paul AA4ZZ
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2024 10:10:12 -0400
> From: <alex@kr1st.com>
> To: <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
> Subject: [VHFcontesting] PSE try FT4 on 6m
> Message-ID: <001c01daba76$bf463e90$3dd2bbb0$@kr1st.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset="UTF-8"
>
> Hi there,
>
>
>
> When 6m is open like it is now, please try FT4. The 3dB loss in signal
> strength does not measure up to your signal being buried by everyone else
> wo is also staying on FT8.
>
>
>
> Of course, if you?re really daring, you can try SSB or CW. ?
>
>
>
> 73,
>
> --Alex KR1ST
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2024 07:13:28 -0700
> From: Tim C <timcoad@gmail.com>
> To: alex@kr1st.com
> Cc: vhfcontesting@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] PSE try FT4 on 6m
> Message-ID:
> ??? <CAFs6rSLCB_zLZP660AzNNDEC5FePeGPu7wP=PEPPpK4KnQyZUQ@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Funny, Wish we had that problem here. Band has been dead for me all weekend
> so far.
>
> Good luck everyone.
> Tim
> NU6S
>
> On Sun, Jun 9, 2024 at 7:10?AM <alex@kr1st.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi there,
> >
> >
> >
> > When 6m is open like it is now, please try FT4. The 3dB loss in signal
> > strength does not measure up to your signal being buried by everyone else
> > wo is also staying on FT8.
> >
> >
> >
> > Of course, if you?re really daring, you can try SSB or CW. ?
> >
> >
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > --Alex KR1ST
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > VHFcontesting mailing list
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> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/vhfcontesting
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2024 10:27:18 -0400
> From: <alex@kr1st.com>
> To: "'Tim C'" <timcoad@gmail.com>
> Cc: <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] PSE try FT4 on 6m
> Message-ID: <004701daba79$22e60500$68b20f00$@kr1st.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset="UTF-8"
>
> I?m only sporadically in the contest this time around so I have no idea
> how 6m has been all weekend, I just noticed the opening and see most folks
> still on FT8 while FT4 could be so much more effective if more folks would
> adopt it. It?s a lot more like the old RTTY, a mode that I always liked,
> too. Even if folks would spread out a little more on FT8 than just the 3kHz
> at 313 it would be an improvement.
>
>
>
> Yes, good luck to everyone!
>
>
>
> 73,
>
> --Alex KR1ST
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Tim C <timcoad@gmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2024 10:13 AM
> To: alex@kr1st.com
> Cc: vhfcontesting@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] PSE try FT4 on 6m
>
>
>
> Funny, Wish we had that problem here. Band has been dead for me all
> weekend so far.
>
>
>
> Good luck everyone.
>
> Tim
>
> NU6S
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 9, 2024 at 7:10?AM <alex@kr1st.com <mailto:alex@kr1st.com> >
> wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
>
>
> When 6m is open like it is now, please try FT4. The 3dB loss in signal
> strength does not measure up to your signal being buried by everyone else
> wo is also staying on FT8.
>
>
>
> Of course, if you?re really daring, you can try SSB or CW. ?
>
>
>
> 73,
>
> --Alex KR1ST
>
> _______________________________________________
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2024 10:47:22 -0500
> From: Tim Lee <w5trl.tim@gmail.com>
> To: alex@kr1st.com
> Cc: vhfcontesting@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] PSE try FT4 on 6m
> Message-ID:
> ??? <CABTfpMOb7=S2a0ws++ggcLrMUE=ktNj0t_WMvx_RxL4NCGYobA@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Agreed wholeheartedly!? 6m is so up and down this contest (lots of broken
> Qs due to rapid QSB) that FT4 has a MUCH better chance of getting the
> sequences done, quicker.
>
> Out of the few that are running FT4 (about a dozen so far), I've had zero
> broken FT4 QSOs and am running a full 25-30% incompleted Qs on FT8.
>
> My .02, FWIW, YMMV,
>
> 73 Tim W5TRL
> Text or call 512-799-0308 for schedules
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 9, 2024 at 9:10?AM <alex@kr1st.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi there,
> >
> >
> >
> > When 6m is open like it is now, please try FT4. The 3dB loss in signal
> > strength does not measure up to your signal being buried by everyone else
> > wo is also staying on FT8.
> >
> >
> >
> > Of course, if you?re really daring, you can try SSB or CW. ?
> >
> >
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > --Alex KR1ST
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > VHFcontesting mailing list
> > VHFcontesting@contesting.com
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>
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