Just a comment that I'm sure I'm not the only one that essentially ignores
the Band Map for "gunning". I use the packet window. In addition to the
fact that the Band Map will only show a segment of the band at any given
time, the color coding is not updated as you work stations/mults. The "M"
designator for spots in the Packet Window is immediately updated.
I would propose adding a designator to the spots in the Packet Window: "Q"
to indicate an in-band QSX frequency is included with the spot and "B" to
indicate spot is out-of-band with no QSX frequency included with the spot.
These are obviously USA-only designators.
73,
Barry N1EU
website: www.albany.net/~bg
>From: "Skopal, Eugene" <ESkopal@datatec.com>
>Reply-To: "AE2F (E-mail)" <AE2F@QSL.NET>
>To: "Laurence 'Mike' Hammer" <ldh3@cornell.edu>
>CC: writelog@contesting.com
>Subject: RE: [WriteLog] Writelog "out-of-band" enhancement
To: <writelog@contesting.com>
>Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 14:02:58 -0500
>
>
>Mike,
>
>I am not suggesting any sort of filtering! The spots still appear.
>
>I am only suggesting that if the spot is outside of the operator's bands,
>and doesn't have a QSX frequency that is inside the bands, then highlight
>the SPOT as a warning to the operator. WL already highlights spots (as
>different colors) for worked, not-worked, and multiplier. I am suggesting
>another highlight, a gray border, for out of band.
>
>The operator can still select the spot, and determine if the station is
>advertising a QSX frequency. When he works the station he can re-spot the
>station with the correct QSX info (as I frequently do in S&P mode).
>
>Beyond that, I would like WL to warn me that I have tuned beyond the band,
>or that I don't have the dual-vfo buttons set correctly.
>
>It would be cool to color-code the Band-Map with two back ground colors,
>one
>for inband (black as it is now) on one for out-of-band (I would suggest
>gray). Obviously, if you looked at a spot in the "gray" part of the band
>map you would be suspicious -- but if the spot has a black border around
>it,
>then you know that it has a valid QSX frequency associated with it!
>Conversely, if it is gray then you know to be very careful. Interestingly,
>if you see a spot in the black part of the band-map with a gray border,
>then
>you know that it has an invalid QSX frequency associated with it (it
>happens!) and again you know to be careful!
>
>By the way, I certainly agree that you don't want to filter!
>
>..Eugene..
>AE2F
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Laurence 'Mike' Hammer [mailto:ldh3@cornell.edu]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 11:13 AM
>To: Skopal, Eugene
>Cc: writelog@contesting.com
>Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Writelog "out-of-band" enhancement
>
>
>
>Filtering for out of band spots is a very interesting problem from a
>programmer's perspective. 'Interesting' here means it will generate lots
>of user feedback, both good and bad!
>
> From the programmer's perspective, what becomes critical is the data
>coming in to filter. Most spotting programs, data entry forms on WWW and
>so forth either don't force-fill QSX when appropriate (radio not connected
>to computer, program not reading QSX freq when creating spot) or don't show
>how to enter a QSX freq when taking manual spots. So the data coming into
>WL over packet isn't 100% reliable by any stretch. As a result, WL or any
>program that would filter spots would have to make a whole lot of
>assumptions that would result in some valid spots being filtered out.
>
>As one of the mult-chasers for W6XR and a few other efforts I'd rather
>decide for myself whether a spot is a good one or not. I think that is
>part of the operator-skill portion of a contest. I'm generally against
>fully automated contests, think the tools we have right now leave just
>enough to the operator for SSB contests at least. What I'd like to see is
>some more monitoring and some kind of points reduction for folks caught
>transmitting out of band, etc. Then we would all remember to check for
>QSX! As a fairly new ham but old participant in other forms of competition
>I'm amazed at how little enforcement there is in radio contesting.
>
>Mike N2VR
>
>
>At 09:48 AM 11/7/00 -0500, Skopal, Eugene wrote:
>
> >Wayne,
> >
> >I, like others, keep getting burned by out-of-band spots. I would really
> >like the PC to warn me that I am configured to transmit out of band. It
> >would be GREAT if Writelog had a feature that would turn the frequency
>box
> >next to the entry window RED if you were setup to transmit outside of the
> >band.
> >
> >Additionally, it would be great of the out-of-band spots were color coded
> >(or bordered/boxed in) differently in the band-map.
> >
> >..Eugene..
> >AE2F
> >
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