Billy ... some people have continuing and
unending problems getting WriteLog working for them.
Others do not. You seem to be from the first group.
My only thought is why put yourself through that...
If the program does not work for you or do what you want,
then use one that does ... If it is TR ... then use TR ...
There are enough hassles in life without getting your knickers
in a twist over a contest program.
K1VV (:-) (:-) (:-) (Enough?)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Billy Cox" <aa4nu@ix.netcom.com>
To: "Writelog@Contesting. Com" <writelog@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Sound with sound card
> >Billy ... think you should go back to TR ....
> >You are having too many problems with WriteLog ...
> >
> > K1VV
>
> Hello Bob, (didn't see any "smilies", so guess you are serious)
>
> Sure it's an option but ... not a positive one to consider.
>
> I don't think so ... re-read what I said about WL on RTTY and CW ... also
> check with the several NEW WL users that I have been helping to get up
> and running with WL. Sure TR, as well as NA, and WF1B are options
> that I have here to use. But I am spending my time with WL for now.
>
> One local here had given up several times, just trying to get WL and his
rig
> to work together ... should he go "back to TR also" ?
>
> Another had to go to a different sound card, but he's up and running now
> also FB and very pleased with WL.
>
> I just heard back from another new user, for whatever reason WL gave a
> JA QSO in his log a ? <nope it was not a Mult> so I fixed that and solved
> the problem for now as to his ARRL 10m log.
>
> Now another local says WL now won't let him save his ARRL 10m log
> as a CABRILLO file ... I told him to save it as a ADIF and send it to
> me and I'll take a look at it ... which I will do.
>
> Many of you on here have helped me by answering my questions and
> working with the specifics of my setup here, and as I have posted
> before, I am grateful and thankful for your help.
>
> Why are these issues occurring ? Should they not be addressed ?
>
> Or Bob ... because they are having problems, should they return
> back to another program ?
>
> On the other hand ... if this is the "next TR, or TR on Windows", or "top
> tier contest software" ... why not ask for the bar to be raised ?
>
> Why should we not ask for or discuss the areas that a program could be
> improved in ? Is that not the purpose of this email reflector ?
>
> If this is as good as WL is going to get ... then W5XD or K5DJ simply
> need to state so, there are certainly other alternatives to consider
> certainly. We need to also consider these guys have other vocations than
> just WL, and that's a factor to also consider as to time for improvements.
>
> NOTE: ... No other program that I've looked at seems to have the
> potential that WL does ... N1MM is working on something, and
> several others, outside of the USA have similar programs.
>
> So should we "sit and wait" ? Can not WL users drive this by sharing
> ideas and desires ?
>
> What is occurring is that several folks are responding privately to me
with
> concerns that "no one is listening" to the suggestions being made on here.
>
> That's a "lose lose" for everyone involved.
>
> If it gets to where a new user is afraid to make a posting on here for
fear
> of being told "go back to TR" or the unspoken message is you must be a
> dummy to be having problems ... folks something has gone wrong ... very
> wrong here.
>
> Re-read my posts ... I still think the variable here is the sound card, as
> to some will work better than others, despite the ratings.
>
> I think the data given (excluding K9JY's site) directly from WL regarding
> the use of sound cards is very lacking as to content and value. If you are
> a Windows programmer, it might be sufficient, if not ... then it may be a
> struggle. Look back in the archives as to the number of posts on the
> topic of setting up the sound card for SSB.
>
> Some one made a suggestion that we as a group, improve upon
> the provided written material, I think that's a great idea. Any technical
> writers on here to help drive that idea to reality ?
>
> TR DOES have a 'learning curve' also ... but Tree is there with support
> and the TR provided written material is updated on a regular basis.
>
> There's options in TR that I have nary a clue to, or see any need for,
> yet others swear by them. Can WL not offer similar flexibility ? Just
> because YOU might be satisfied with the current options, what about
> others ?
>
> Certainly TR and N6TR have also set a very high bar or standard as
> to how that software is supported. There's nothing wrong with that.
>
> Scot's (K9JY) site is a tremendous resource, especially with the sound
> card data he posted there today, but that does not overcome the lack
> of information provided directly from WL. Why didn't WL include such
> information as part of the package ?
>
> The solution to solid CW keying with Windows is the W5XD box,
> which adds other features. But some have asked for improvements
> to that unit also ... and the response has been ?
>
> My point remains that if the basic sound card can't provide the same
> level or quality of <voice> keying as the W5XD box does for CW, then
> provide something that does ... I don't see folks fussing about having
> to buy the W5XD box for the very best in CW keying ...
>
> Let's face it ... WL has the potential to be the next standard, as it
> is already Windows based, covers multiple modes, and allows the
> op to customize the screen to suit individual desires, and to use
> that same setup, with the same commands for ALL modes. Not a
> bad package indeed !
>
> But it requires a learning curve of it's own. Different from TR's, but
still
> there. Add the problem of this being a Windows based application
> and the curve may never be low. What's different today is the lack of
> positive two-way feedback between the users and supporters with
> needed continued improvements in documentation.
>
> Did you catch the word positive ? I hope so, as that's what I am
> pushing for and toward. I hope you are also.
>
> 73 Billy AA4NU
>
>
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