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Re: [WriteLog] Insert Key

To: "'DickT-W0RAA'" <dickt@w0raa.com>
Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Insert Key
From: "Gary AL9A" <al9a@mtaonline.net>
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 22:45:20 -0800
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Okay, this discussion has prompted me to go back and reread the "Message 
Shortcut Keys" section where it discusses use of the Insert key.

"Insert
Sends the message corresponding to F10. (or you can change the 
"SendCallExchangeKey" entry in WRITELOG.INI to use a different function 
key.) Presumably you would have programmed this key to send the callsign 
followed by the contest exchange. The callsign is what's in the CALL field, 
unless you have a RTTY window up. With RTTY, the "callsign" to send comes 
from the RTTY window where a call detected as a multiplier (highlighted 
yellow) has priority over others. The cursor in the Entry window is advanced 
to the first field in the exchange."

I guess I was sleeping at the switch and missed the next to the last 
sentence that begins, "With RTTY...".  As a fairly new RTTY contester I've 
been doing what I've always done for CW contests in Rittyrite.  That is left 
click on the highlighted call to get it into the CALL field of the Entry 
window and then, depending on whether I'm running or doing S&P, press Insert 
(while running) to sent my exchange or another F key (S&P) that sends just 
my call to the other running station.  What I'm getting from this thread is 
that for RTTY I should just press Insert and WL will pick a highlighted call 
from the Rittyrite window and populate it into the CALL field.  WL will 
first select a multiplier if any are highlighted and then a non-multiplier 
call.  What isn't clearly stated is that for this procedure to work 
correctly I must be in run mode.  If I'm in S&P I don't want my exchange 
being sent until the other calling station acknowledges my response to his 
CQ.  In this situation I must still click on the call in the Rittyrite 
window to populate the CALL field, but then do nothing until I send another 
F memory key to solicit a reply.  My understanding is that this use of the 
Insert key ONLY works for RTTY and ONLY if I am running and not S&P.  If I 
am mistaken please let me know.  Also, what does "ESM" stand for?

73,
Gary AL9A

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ed Muns" <w0yk@msn.com>
To: "'DickT-W0RAA'" <dickt@w0raa.com>
Cc: "'Writelog Reflector'" <writelog@contesting.com>
Sent: August 29, 2010 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Insert Key


> Comments below ...
>
>> Also, thanks to Jay, WS7I for his help.  I may get this
>> figured out eventually.  Hi Hi
>
> Jay's overall explanation was excellent and complete.
>
>> I just hit the Insert key when I see the highlighted call in
>> the RTTYrite Receive window.  It moves the call to the Data
>> Input Window and promptly send the contents of my F10 Key,
>> which I have as my key to hit when I want to use "And now..."
>> when I see 2 calls and finish one then pick up the other.
>> For this particular contest the F10 macro is "%R%P1 TU NOW %C 599
>> 1963 1963 de W0RAA%E" (without the quotes, of course).  Once
>> I have the info from the station I hit my F3 Key and send "%R
>> %C TU GL DE w0raa CQ%L%O%E".
>> So basically my sequence if I am in Run mode is F2 for CQ, F3
>> for my report to the station calling and F4 to QSL, log him
>> and Zero my RIT if I had to use it.
>>
>> I'm a little confused why the F10 key is chosen to send a
>> report.  I know I'm doing something wrong.
>
> As Jay explained, the writelog.ini file has a parameter for specifying 
> which
> Fn key is executed with the INSERT key.  You need to change that parameter
> from F10 (as it obviously is currently set in your writelog.ini file) to 
> the
> Fn key you have for your exchange.
>
>> People on here
>> say click on the call in the RTTYrite receive window, the hit
>> the Insert.
>
> This works too.  In fact, if you need to repeat the exchange, you can just
> hit the INSERT key and your exchange will be sent.
>
>> I thought the Insert was primarily used to
>> "Grab" a call and move it to the Data Input window without
>> having to click on the call.
>
> This is true, but it can be used repetitively to repeat the exchange.
>
>> Maybe my confusion, since I
>> assumed (I guess
>> incorrectly) that after the call was in the Data Entry
>> window, hitting the Insert would move the cursor to the next
>> field.
>
> Up until version 10.79, this was NOT the case.  The cursor stayed in the
> call sign field after the INSERT key stuffed the call sign in the entry
> window and sent your exchange.  The enhancement in 10.79 was to add a
> parameter to the writelog.ini file for the user to specify whether the
> cursor advanced, or not, after an INSERT operation.  The reason for this
> enhancement was to allow INSERT to advance the cursor like other entry
> operations do.
>
>> Why?  If I click on AL9A, it goes to the Data Entry
>> window, and when you send a report, I click on what you send
>> and it goes to the proper field.  Why do we need an Insert
>> Key?  It seems to be confusing things, at least for me.
>
> The value of the INSERT key is to combine two keystrokes into one.  Using
> INSERT (1) grabs the call sign and stuffs it into the call sign entry 
> field,
> and (2) sends your exchange.
>
> The issue of advancing the cursor, or not, has to do with how you get the
> other station's exchange into the exchange entry field.  If you always 
> click
> in the exchange from the rttyrite window, then the cursor advancement is a
> moot point.  But, if you use Pre-Fill and the exchange is already there, 
> you
> need the cursor in the exchange field so that hitting Enter (if in ESM 
> mode)
> or '+' will log the contact and send your TU/CQ message.  Otherwise, you
> have to hit SPACE to advance the cursor from the call sign entry field to
> the exchange entry field.  After hitting SPACE several thousand times in a
> number of contests, I really appreciate this cursor advance enhancement 
> for
> the INSERT function.   ;>)
>
> Ed - W0YK
>
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